reagan was always kind and thoughtful about barry goldwater and gave a famous speech in 64. that speech which raised millions of dollars for the goldwater campaign and launched reagan's political career. he was are giving that speech in california but never given it nationally, given on nbc last night in october 1964, then everybody flooded to him, what became known as the kitchen cabinet, bloomingdale and several other men were part of the kitchen cabinet came to him and said got to run for congress, that wasn't for reagan. reagan viewed himself as a leader, he was president of the screen actors guild, a leading public intellectual. governor suited him, president suited him, he was an executive, not a member of legislature. i tell you one story. many years ago when i was interning in the u.s. senate for jacob javits, who was a liberal republican senator from new york, your number him from new york. my parents were very active in the new york state conservative party and we always had we 3 kids passing out brochures and doing all this stuff and in 64 when i was 8 years old i

i was, a freshman in college in 1964 and new york, of all places, with a barry goldwater sticker on myefcase. and i think was when i first became interested in, ronald reagan, because i thought his speeches in favor of goldwater's. and i thought your comments about privacy and stuff resonate it with what my view was on some of the strengths that goldwater had and it seems to me lately republicans seem to want to run away from some of their candidates and perhaps barry goldwater is not somebody that people to associate reagan with. but i do. you're right curious. you're right in his thinking heavily influenced reagan. i know reagan read goldwater's books. they say one thing, which is that goldwater was not a fan. reagan personally, because he was jealous him because reagan was a successful popular politician. and of course, goldwater went down to a crashing defeat in 64. so it's always kind of that that tension between the two. on the other, mostly on goldwater, in fact on goldwater's part, not in reagan's part. reagan was always laudatory, always kind, always thoughtful about goldwater

just recent history, barry goldwater, mr. conservative in arizona in the 1990s, there was a particular republican candidate for congress, who barry goldwater and people did not think represented the republican party well. and then bought overtime, that would be worse for the party, having this person at the head of it. so he endorsed a democrat. that democrat won. she was probably defeated two years later by another republican. that it wasn't -- it was good for the party over all. is a grand tradition that people crossing the aisle, putting country over party and i think that is what is going to happen in arizona. i think it happened last time and it will happen again. >> one of the things donald trump has been escalating in the last couple of weeks his rhetoric including his promise of retribution against those he considers his enemies. bob woodward reported that general mark milley, the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has installed bullet proof glass and blast roof curtains at his home out of fear of what might

as i describe in the book, i debated on behalf of barry goldwater in front of my entire junior high school grade school student body, several hundred students. i was 12 years old in my 12 year old heart. i knew he was right and so i was a very passionate conservative i was a william f buckley. i read national review. and then when i got to college during my junior year, i ran across libertarianism. the book tells the story about how i became introduced to libertarianism actually at first a friend of mine told me about it and i told her, you know, i'd want to hear about this. and the reason why is that the word was weird weird, and i thought it sounded so that was it. but then she brought a speaker to the residential college. we in who would explain libertarianism. i was listening to it and i thought, wow, a rational conservatism. i could go for that. and by my last year, northwestern, i taught a student accredited on libertarian, libertarian ism. so at that point, by my senior year of college i was a libertarian then the book, as the book explains where i went as a first year law student,

barry goldwater not paying attention.should be looking straight ahead in those pictures. >> ainsley: goes on through nixon and ronald reagan. >> brian: hue pert hum gri said he had said would have been in london. if they do not fight in 168 nixon will be in the white house. >> ainsley: nixon won. >> brian: here is hillary. >> one other thing you will see next week, kaitlin, is trump actually reenacting the madison square garden rally in 1939. i write about this in my book. president franklin roosevelt was appalled that neo-nazis, fascists, in america were lining up to essentially essentially spread their support for the kind of government they were seeing in germany i don't think we can ignore it. it may be a leap for some people and a lot of others may think i don't want to go there. i don't want to say that but, please, open your eyes to the danger that this man poses to our country because i think it is clear and present for anybody paying attention. >> brian: amazing how she does not interrupt her like she did preside

barry goldwater, arizona. charles mac, mathias maryland and richard schweiker of pennsylvania. all very well known as well. yes, absolutely. john tower was a really important figure in this investigation, not only because he was vice chairman, of course, but also because he was placed on the committee by republican senate leader hugh scott and told that he should try to rein in some of the investigation, that he should be there to protect the national intelligence community. but john tower did work very cooperatively with church. over time, they became a surprisingly cooperative duo, even though they had decidedly different people. they came from different parts of the political spectrum and they worked really quite well together. john tower even later wrote in his memoir that he realized that over the course of the investigation that change needed to happen and that congress did need to exercise better oversight over this national intelligence apparatus. a couple of the other members there, i mean, barry goldwater being on the committee was important. he was largely protective

you got barry goldwater, nixon, ford, reagan, gwb. "fox & friends weekend" co-host pete hegseth. pete, not surprising. >> not surprising. steve, i want to know where the joy is. this was going to be -- the whole convention they barely mentioned donald trump there was no rhetoric like this. remember. this was the rhetoric that joe biden was employing when he was still a candidate, right? the blood red background, the threat to democracy. the fascist. that was him. >> steve: right. >> going to turn to joy. why was biden peddling that they believe that was their best chance. they can't run on their actual record. there is no chance. so fascism equals hitler. this was all timed to -- timed with what john kelly said about donald trump. which has been thoroughly debunked and no one was corroborated it yet. but the media doesn't care about that anymore. when you look at the list of republicans you showed, steve, mitt romney, paul ryan, gerald ford, like, barry goldwater and ronald reagan and donald trump are -- were threats to the system. ri

year-old kid who started off with a passion for liberty and by 12 eels -- 12 years old arguing for barry goldwater in his class and make a difference not by running for office which is the idea had when i was young. being an academic and some respects by beingin a lawyer or criminalmi prosecutor and how yu can live or rewarding life. one ofak the takeaways that i would buy is if everybody whether they buy the book or not i think you would love a happier life if you lived your life as though you're going to write a memoir about it. i didn't tell the truth about all the stuff including the mistakes i made. there were lot of mistakes i made that you want to live -- you won't to make. i think you lived better life. would i be proud or shamed of what i'm about to do and never s book?put in the there's one last less thing i think a get out out of it and that's the importance of -- and cultivating them. am the man i am because of other starting with my father moving to my gradeschool music instructor mai high school debate coach and philosophy professorseg in college that had an influence on me and mento

in new york city at rockefeller's penthouse, which infuriates the conservatives and leads to barry goldwatermounting a sort of pretend candidacy at the convention. but where he challenges is the delegates grow up conservatives and will take this party back. and that is exactly what happens in 64. but then who does richard nixon choose for the vice presidency? and then he he is trying to ameliorate and please the liberal wing of the party now. now, with, as we say, what liberal wing of the republican party. but back then it was quite substantial. and he ends up offering the vice presidency to rockefeller. he turns it down because, hey, he's nelson rockefeller. and rockefeller is or nixon is even nominated, aided and seconded by really clear cut liberals in the republican party. like senator mccarthy, jacob javits of new york, tom kiko of carl for india, and then eventually picks henry cabot lodge, former senator from new massachusetts, under ambassador who turns out to be a horrible choice was henry cabot lodge part of the liberal wing absolute. and he had been in dwight eisenhower's campaign

a ten year old kid can start off with a passion for liberty and by 12 years old, arguing for barry goldwater in front of his junior high school class and make a difference not running for office. an idea i had when i young, but i quickly have added. but by being in and but in some respects by being a practicing lawyer or being a criminal prosecutor is how you can leverage life. and one of the takeaways from this that i would everybody, whether they buy the book or not, and that is i think would live a happier life if you lived your life as though you were going to write a memoir about it. because when i sat down to write it, i'm going to tell the whole truth about myself, including the bad stuff, including the stuff that i ate, the mistakes i made. and there's a lot of things about the mistakes made so you won't have to make the same mistakes i did if you're young, especially, and if you live your life as though you're going to write a memoir, i think you'll live a better life. you think about? would i be proud of what i'm about to do? i can put it in the book. or would i be ashamed what i'm

february 11, 1965, just after johnson was inaugurated after he won a landslide victory over barry goldwater bird johnson wrote in her book, i heard him say something today that i thought he would only say to me. he said to hubert humphrey, his vice president, i am not qualified to be commander-in-chief. i find sending these boys over there to fight and die so difficult. that was exactly the time when he was initiated -- initiating the first marines to land on the mainland in vietnam and begin the bombing campaign. think about that. he said he was not qualified by these -- he did it anyway. nobody said to him, mr. president, let's get out. it was a tragedy. no question about it. >> you have put online two hours of audio interviews you did with robert mcnamara. at the end of the audio interview is this. peter: robert mcnamara died in july of 2009. the history of the vietnam conflict will always be a tragedy for the u.s.. as well as a devastating time for vietnam. bob was able to explain to the extent he could that it would never be enough. in his closing session with us, he said we participat

bush, one accused ronald reagan richard nixon barry goldwater compared to hitler.veryone from nikki haley, to governor ron desantis to kamala's friend dick cheney have been compared to nazis by democrats but this time it's a lot different two. people have already tried to assassinate donald trump during this election cycle. a trump supporter was murdered. others were seriously wounded and yet, top democrats are ramping up out of pure panic and desire for political power their rhetoric with kamala calling donald trump a fascist as and of her surrogates doing the same comparing him to hitler and supporters calling him nazi. right know there are delusional people that are out there that are hearing these words. we have foreign actors that we know about in this country, including iranian assassination squads, who are targeting donald trump, targeting his family, targeting his campaign team. they know all of this. they get security briefings. and they obviously do not care. this insane, never-ending, absolutely dangerous rhetoric, they talk about donald trump's rhetoric

with the third reich means in fact the democrat party's been calling republicans hitler from barry goldwaterrd nixon, john mccain, mitt romney they called nikki haley, eva brought hitler, hitler, hitler. donald trump they must decide in a million times. it is because kamala harris is sophomoric but she's childish. she lacks substance a sheet lashes out to be the amazing thing about the people using the word hitler comes from a party who has members that worship hitler. he talked like hitler. who attacked the jews who are anti- semites who attacked the state of israel. kamala harris has supported her reelection. omar, has supported her reelection. aoc. the democrat party is that modern neo- nazi anti-semitic party in the night states of america. i will get to that in a minute. i want you to look at this little montage of how they treat trump fascist dictator, hitler, go. >> is a step from the 1930s this is hitler stuff. >> yes he is authoritarian figure. >> general mark milley is core to sing general is fascist to the core what's driving harris to support this language publicly? >> it is the

the list includes senator barry goldwater, nixon, ford, reagan, george w.h and mitt romney and paul ryan. an opinion argues the only people who believe these nazi and fascist comparison are the brain washed democrat voters. no one should believe any of these attacks. after all, democrats have a six decade long history of being proven wrong in comparing republicans to fascists and nazis. again that's a quote. one headline with democrats turn up heat on rhetoric after they vow to cool political temperature. civility and unity, kamala ups rhetoric to assassination attempt levels. one day after president trump was shot at the rally in butler, pennsylvania, this statement. >> president biden: want to speak about the need for us to lower the temperature in our politics. the political rhetoric has gotten very heated. time to cool it down. >> harris: was he lying? sean duffy, former republican congressman from wisconsin, host of the bottom line on fox business. you know, two attempts against one man in one summer. and constant secret service head on a swivel to pro

and a lot of republican ends when they were listening to ronald and barry goldwater speak on the same platform and they said, gosh, i wish goldwater spoke as well as because, you know, goldwater was, as i'm sure you remember, was very hard edged. he was not warm and cuddly guy. he knew what he believed. and he was going to shove it down your throat, whereas reagan, as a journalist said in the mid 1960s, his personality was like warm bath water. it was soothing. he could repeat the same as goldwater, but could deliver with a smile. he can make people like him and not feel threatened by him. and so after, you know, the goldwater campaign he started, you know, at running himself and he thought that in 1966, pat brown, father of jerry brown, who was the two term governor of california, thought pat brown's popularity was waning and that pat brown would be vulnerable to a challenge. and in fact, that turned to be very accurate because he beat pat brown by a million votes. so he won 1966. and in 68, he makes a short campaign for president trying to beat the presumed nominee, richard nixon. w

i think we've got a graphic that shows all the way back to barry goldwater. will pointed out in the truman race republicans have been called hitler or fascists or tyrants. from nixon to reagan, to -- i mean, gerald ford and mitt romney are about as moderate as you can get, and they're called hitler. with donald trump, let's be real, those were maybe one-offs. this is their slogan. this is the blood red dripped, you know, independence hall with the marines behind him saying it's a threat to 'em the crass. there have been two assassination attempts, and they're not going to stop. >> they're not. and that's the dangerous part about this. of when this election is over, you want people to unite. all the language they're using right now is they want the keep fighting. and when you have two assassination attempts, we do not want the next president of the united states to be fearing of their life every single day. what does that do to the nation? think about this president who went back to butler. that was to help heel the natio. the other party is encouraging even m

he's in good company because take a look at this every republican presidential candidate ends barry goldwater goldwater richard nixon, ronald reagan george hw bush cordial george w. bush and mitt ron desantis scott walker, richard this is like a code to think that seems to me nothing except throw fair in the hearts of voters. >> i do agree the labels overused and used overused timbers most extreme form. i think one because the general chief of staff should cause pause for americans number one but number two, when you look at former president trump's record to say there was not some missteps that cause people to about his behavior and use government is a little bit beyond the pale. things when folks peacefully protesting after the death of george floyd and c gaffes those protesters. speed when they destroyed property. >> we also saw january 6th and people trying to complain about that too. >> john: let cities burn down. >> hold on a second those protesters were peacefully protesting, right? >> is that peaceful protest in the cities where the stores were literally burned down? neither you or i

but when barry goldwater was the republican nominee for president in 1964, one of the minor scandals in his campaign -- which had a lot of scandals -- is that his campaign employed a full-time campaign worker whose organization had been shut down by the u.s. government during world war ii because it was an american fascist organization. the guy's name was allen zoll. he reorganized himself into something called the national council for american education, which investigated american universities for subversion and tried to shut them down for being communist or whatever. he put out pamphlets with titles like "they want your child." allen zoll also somewhat famously testified in congress that felix frankfurter shouldn't be approved as a supreme court justice, specifically because he was jewish. he said that was the grounds which he thought he shouldn't be confirmed. the shut down the universities thing has been an obsession on the far right on and off for a very long while. and its most famous proponents have just not been the best people. just objectively, they have mostly been associ

in new york city at rockefeller's penthouse, which infuriates the conservatives and leads to barry goldwatermounting a sort of pretend candidacy at the convention. but where he challenges is the delegates grow up conservatives and will take this party back. and that is exactly what happens in 64. but then who does richard nixon choose for the vice presidency? and then he he is trying to ameliorate and please the liberal wing of the party now. now, with, as we say, what liberal wing of the republican party. but back then it was quite substantial. and he ends up offering the vice presidency to rockefeller. he turns it down because, hey, he's nelson rockefeller. and rockefeller is or nixon is even nominated, aided and seconded by really clear cut liberals in the republican party. like senator mccarthy, jacob javits of new york, tom kiko of carl for india, and then eventually picks henry cabot lodge, former senator from new massachusetts, under ambassador who turns out to be a horrible choice was henry cabot lodge part of the liberal wing absolute. and he had been in dwight eisenhower's campaign

these are the same attacks, 15 republicans going back to barry goldwater and reagan, also leveled against john mccain, mitt romney and nikki haley. it's not sticking. so what are you hearing inside your campaign about these attacks? >> these attacksen aren't landing with the american people because they've been thrown at president trump for eight years now. and today in 2024 president trump is more popular amongst the american people than he ever has been since 2016. kamala harris has no policy to stand on, no record to stand on because she's been the worst vice president in our nation's history. she's overseen the worst border crisis and cast the tie-breaking vote to the create the worst inflation crisis in a generation. while she tries the same old and tired attacks which her own super pac said are not resonating with the american public based on data the, president trump has a strong closing argument in the final week of this race that is actually working. it's very simple. kamala harris broke it, broke our border, our economy, our standing in the world, only president trump can fix it

to me, i've made it akin to if barry goldwater 1964 who ran against lbj, a conservative, started the conservative movement, ran and lost, if after the election he said i'm ready to support lbj and serve in his cabinet, it would be the same magnitude as this. she is a diehard red conservative, who stood the line on conservatives, her and her family for decades in this, and for her to endorse a senator, a former senator from california, who served under joe biden as vice president, is historic. and to me, the impact it will have is two fold. one, i think it sends a signal to the independent voters that vice president can be bipartisan, will approach this and welcome in all people of political persuasions. and, two, soft republicans who don't feel like they can make a leap to vote for vice president harris, i think liz cheney sends a signal that says, if you can't vote for harris, which she says she wants them to, just go ahead and skip and don't vote for the presidential race, which could have more impact than the persuasion of independent voters. >> interesting. just your thoughts on

senator barry goldwater, the 1964 republican presidential nominee, and hugh scott, the senate minority leader, go to a white house meeting with, i'm sorry, the republican leadership on the house side. and they they have a meeting with richard nixon in the oval office in which they describe to him that if the house impeaches the president and the senate sits in a trial impeachment, that the president does not have support among enough senate republicans to prevent his conviction. and that's i think, really the moment where it becomes clear to richard nixon that he won't survive this politically. and the only tool left to him is resignation. and that's what led to august eighth, 1974. i have never been a quitter to leave office before my term is completed is abhorrent. to every instinct in my body. but as president, i must put the interests of america first. america needs a full time president and a full time congress, particularly at this time, with problems we face at home and abroad to continue to fight through the months ahead. for my personal vindication, with almost totally absorbe

with 500 tactical vehicles including 10880 high water vehicles, barry goldwater and brown brown national guard search and rescue teams. this is the largest florida national guard search and rescue mobilization in the entire history of the state of florida. our florida state card is also deploying almost 200 soldiers, ten maritime crews crews, three high water utilities, uh 60 black hawk helicopters, trojans, cut and tossed crews, amphibious rescue crews. we want to thank them and this is just a dream a couple years ago that there would be involved and there's a lot of unfair criticism when we stood it up but they make a huge difference in this hurricane season. they'll continue to do here. we have also worked with the utilities to have largest staging of utility workers in alignment and events of the storm any time in american history. we will have in florida by the time the storm arises over 50,000 linemen, and those linemen to bring brought in for places far away as california. as soon as the storm passes you going to see the assessment and power restoration efforts commence immediatel

examiner" where they went back in time and said donald trump you are not unique. 1964 you elect barry goldwater. you are fascist. 1968 hubert humphrey says you'll a connection you are fascist picnics and gets elected this guy named ronald reagan as a fascist paul ryan is a fascist. so get a new song because this doesn't play anymore. >> martha: generally you think of conservatives and republicans is wanting less government. fascists want total government. >> do you remember the pandemic? >> i think so. >> i want the power of the state. take your money. i will back you up. that's when you consolidate power because everyone is weekend they need the federal government. he says here's your money find your way through. that's the diffusion of power and to me doesn't have those instincts. really just in general. >> it also reminds me of what happened after the first assassination attempt and president biden coming out rightfully so to call for rhetoric to come down in the country because we don't want to see any former president presidential candidate shocked and mike johnson speaking out about this

side of conservatism which seems to me to have a stronger record than i had for example with barry goldwater1964 you have all kinds of places and institutions and publications and media and so forth some of these broader natural rights oriented traditions. there's that. i think there's some on the left that are coming to a? whether economics if you look for example of climate change this is not in any way, shape, form anything to do with economic development or providing any more for people in fact it's usually providing less why? the overarching noneconomic question of global warming. so you see it in that way. this whole transition from equality to equity also seems to me to bsi may be the economic domination things will only take us so far and not further. in the sense that he quality is part of the liberal try to provide more for everybody and more people. where as equity has nothing to do with that. it has to do with sameness it could be at this level or at this level or this level. and so it's more of a question of justice d it's more of a political question. what do we want to do in a

to break down in 1964 with a handful of southern states voting for the republican candidate, barry goldwater, and then president nixon's southern strategy transformed country. terms of the presidential electoral map. with the southern states becoming solidly red and ever more so since. at the same time, there's been a substantial popular realignment with far more people now living in major urban areas. the result of that is to very much increase the electoral college being undemocratic. and that's why in this century we've already had instance electoral college choosing the candidate who lost the popular vote two more times that it can happen and it's likely to continue to happen so long as we have the electoral college. 1970s. what? some rules, changes well, as i mentioned a moment ago, the senate changed the rules. of the filibuster. there were a number of changes with regard to the rules, all of which was to make it much easier for there to be a filibuster. all of which led to, as i said, now it takes little early 60 votes to pass any legislation, other than budget legislation. i'll give

conservative side saying conservatism which seems to me to have a stronger core than it had with barry goldwater in 1964. there was not much of a bench back there but now you have all kinds of places and institutions and publications and media and so forth that defend some of these broader, more natural rights oriented traditions. there is that but i think there are some on the left as well that have a question about whether economics is really the beginning or end of all wisdom. if you look, for example, this is not in any way, shape, or form anyway to do with economic development or providing more for people. in fact, it is usually providing less. because of this overarching noneconomic question of global warning -- warming. you see it in that way. i make him -- an argument that the whole transition from the left of equity also seems to me that maybe it is a sign that the economic validation of things will take us only so far in the sense that equality is part of the liberal tradition of trying to provide more for more people . this has nothing to do with that. equity has to do with sameness.

the conservative side saying conservatism, which now has a much stronger core than it had with barry goldwater in 1964. it was one off. there wasn't much of a bench back there. but now, you have all kinds of places and institutions and publications and media and so forth, to defend some of these broader, more natural rights oriented kind of traditions. there's that, but i think there are some on the left, as well, who are coming to a? about whether economics are -- is the beginning and end all of all wisdom. if you look at climate change, this is not in any way, shape, economic development or providing more for people. in fact, it is usually providing less. why? because of this overarching noneconomic question of global warming. you see it that way. i'll make an argument. i don't know if you believe it or not. this transition of the left from the quality to equity also seems to me to be a sign that maybe the economic evaluation of things will only take us so far and not further in the sense that equality is part of the liberal tradition of trying to provide more for everybody, more people, whe

george hw bush went and campaigned for the democrat so did several us republican senators and barry goldwater, mr. conservative himself supported a democrat running for congress in arizona because he knew that that democrat would probably be beaten the next time. but in the meantime, the republican wouldn't have represented the party well. and that's the situation. we're in today. >> i mean, that 91 race that you're talking about, that was when david duke was running for governor of north carolina or louisiana, excuse me i would do see similarities between that brace and this one. >> no, not in the tight not in the racism. certainly. i'm not making that allegation at all. but if you remember and in the democrat that was running as well, that have been indicted on corruption charges. the bumper stickers at that time where vote for the crook. it's important that what i'm saying here does it if you have a republican that is going to take republicans down the wrong path and if you have a republican, like i said who loses an election, a free and fair election, and then tries to use the powers of t

calling the people who received the calls who weren't necessarily in favor of vra but were so even barry goldwater got a call her and wow wow but she was brilliant on her point so that's a long answer to us. no is is a great need of great script. i want to clarify who she was calling. yes. i remember once congress has the amendment, it has to go the states for ratification. so had to call members of state legislatures so those phone calls were being made into. the states that had not voted for the nra. so like said, a lot of them were opposed. it was a little like what had to happen with the 19th amendment. you have to get all those states behind it. so she's calling into state legislatures to get the legislators to pass it. but if any. but just case people don't understand. i check this first also to make sure that because i knew we'd get a lot of people saying she she's not allowed to call. right. but this was states a it was a national amendment. so, yes, i just want to add something actually, this is postscript to, the 60 minutes interview. and it really shows you such a nice side of mrs. ford

conserve racism, which seems to me to have now a much stronger than it had, for example, was barry goldwater in 1964. he was kind of one of four mean. there wasn't much of a bench back there. but now you have all kinds of places and institutions and publications and media and so forth that defend some of these broader war that's all rights oriented kind of traditions. there's that. but i think there are some on the left as well who are coming to a question mark, whether economics is really the beginning and end of all wisdom. if you look, for example, at climate change, this is not in any way, shape, form, but anything to do with economic development or providing more for people. in fact, it's usually providing less. why? because of the overarching non economic question of global warming. so you see it in way i make an argument. don't know if you ever believe or not that this whole transition of the left from equality to equity also seems to me be a sign that maybe the economic domination of things will take us only so far and not further, in the sense that equality is part of the liberal of