barry gordie was a song writer.est black music ever. >> he created a machine, where you take the artist, polish them up. and make them a great package, they can play the "ed sullivan show" and kill. >> back in the '60s, marvin gaye wanted to be frank sinatra. >> he was svelte, clean-shaven, all that changed in the '70s. >> marvin wanted to compete at a high level. why can't i make a record like the beatles? i'm selling records like they sell. why can't i have that artistic expression? ♪ punish me with brutality talk to me ♪ ♪ when you can see what's going on ♪ ♪ what's going on yeah, what's going on ♪ ♪ tell me what's going on ♪ ooh >> marvin gaye was affected by the vietnam war. his brother was in vietnam. so, he is hearing all these stories about what is going on over there. he's seeing the protests here and it's changing him. >> he holds up a mirror to america, look at yourself, america. >> he is talking about the war, he's talking about poverty. changing as an artist in a way that barry gordie is not super happy

how barry gordy, what he did to be loved was a very important autobiography that barry did.to get past that. you know you can maybe cut into some of those sections where you know he did not fully can find some gaps in their and feed into it. and maybe express your own particular experience as the car has done in terms of understanding the evolution of motown records. >> email.alvin brown. mr. boyd when we speak about the thoughts, words and deeds of key people in our history and our times, and difficulty conveying and relating to the knowledge because i've learned of them through their deeds and my personal observations of them. how can you differentiate between what those people do as human beings and what they expound upon and list as the core of the organizations ideals, sort of like people saying do what i say, forget what i do. also relate this to what rappers and hip-hop people are promoting which is a promotion also of gang lifestyle and black on black violence. >> i need two hours. it is a very interesting and complicated. the question. i do not know if i can do any