joining me is democratic congressman jim himes and barry grissom a former federal prosecutor. congressman, 139, actually up to 16 indictments last week against the russians, individuals and companies. then vanner -- what's his name? van der zwaan this week and that additional identity thief last week. these indictments are mounting up. congressman, is this putting the pressure and forcing the president trump of into this kind of frenzy he's been in lately of tweeting? >> well, it certainly looks that way, chris. i think it creates questions on part of all of us, the public as well as those of us involved in this investigation about exactly how mueller and whether he can make the connection between these. crimes that he has now charged paul manafort and rick gates with and the question of what they know about any possible collusion connecting, of course, to the russia investigation. he has more than enough leverage at in point to induce cooperation. >> well, paul manafort, i don't know him. i met hip a few times during the campaign. he was a major figure in washington politics