>>> you focus on barry landau, this con man, he was also able to get his picture taken with a numberpresidents. who is he? >> he's a fraud. he's a super fraud. he convinced presidents, everyone, he was an expert, that he knew everything about presidents and presidents consulted him when they had a big affair coming up, some kind of royal wedding or whatever. they would go to him for advice on how to do it. and he wrote a coffee table book on presidential memorabilia. it was endorsed, incidentally, among other people, by mike wallace, who wasn't a guy who got conned very often. >> go ahead, sorry, norah. >> i was going to say, it really is incredible what a con man this man, barry landau, is. it's not just him, these documents were stolen by many other people too, right? >> he's just the biggest so far. they don't know what's been stolen. the records are so antiquated and no security, virtually no security in these places. you'd probably have a better time stealing a document than pinching an apple in a supermarket. >> look at this picture. this is a picture of you, we're going to see