[inaudible conversations] >> barry lynn is a fellow at the new america's foundation and author of the coming rise and fall of the global corporation. to find out more from this -- visit newamerica.net. >>> we are at west virginia and university in morgantown west virginia with john temple, author of the blast loitered the fight to save death row inmates. mr. temple why don't you start by telling about the main characters, kenneth rose and boe jones, what is their story? >> there are two men about the same age, they both live in north carolina. both jones was a farm hand from the plan, north carolina convicted of murder in 1993 for a murder that occurred in 1987 and he was sentenced to death and spent a believe 13 years on death row. kenneth rose is the lawyer who in 1997 took on his case shortly before boe was scheduled to be executed and he has represented boe ever since and i spent four and a half years following that case. >> what got you interested in this particular case? have you always interest in the law? >> my wife is a lawyer but it isn't a field i've studied. i was drawn to