barry lynn, if you want to start a short answer. guest: i agree with part of what she says, but i don't agree that -- for example, if you walk into a store with a rainbow colored shirt, you don't feel miserable if someone says, by the way, we won't serve you. that is an insult to the very dignity of who you characterize yourself to be. nothing, by the way, prevents in the case of a baker or photographer -- prevents a person from having to serve the service of what they are providing. to put on the law, and i think this is even said and one of the cases, we don't agree with marriage equality. you can express your own sentiments, but you still have to serve the person involved. to me, that is an accommodation that is proper under the religious freedom restoration act. guest: we have 20 years of rfra can you give me one example where someone underwent that process and went to court and one? when a religious person said, we will not serve a prison because they are gay, and one? guest: i can tell you the religious freedom restoration act

barry lynn, if you want to start a short answer.: i agree with part of what she says, but i don't agree that -- for example, if you walk into a store with a rainbow colored shirt, you don't feel miserable if someone says, by the way, we won't serve you. that is an insult to the very dignity of who you characterize yourself to be. nothing, by the way, prevents in the case of a baker or photographer -- prevents a person from having to serve the service of what they are providing. to put on the law, and i think this is even said and one of the cases, we don't agree with marriage equality. you can express your own sentiments, but you still have to serve the person involved. to me, that is an accommodation that is proper under the religious freedom restoration act. guest: we have 20 years of rfra can you give me one example where someone underwent that process and went to court and one? when a religious person said, we will not serve a prison because they are gay, and one? guest: i can tell you the religious freedom restoration act was u

and barry lynn discuss how the concept of religious liberty is defined. washington journal. by that 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span -- live at some :00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> the most memorable moment was hearing cory gardner say, you need to be firm in your principles but flexible any details. it reflects the solution, the harsh polarization we are seeing across the country. the methodology, if all the senators and congressmen and women can adopt, we can come together as a country and solve issues. >> my favorite quote came from julie adams, the secretary of the senate. she said, remember to be humble and have a strong work ethic. because the people you meet on the way up, you will meet them again on the way back down triad >> often we have a lack of true statesman in congress. senator john mccain did something impressive last year. he committed to the veterans affairs reform bill. maintaining how staying away from torture is essential to the character of our democracy. when we have people who are willing to cross the aisle and make decisions with people they may not often