james, you are up next with the reverend barry lynn. >> yes, good morning. my comment is actually a reference to your previous guest who said, very clearly, a couple of times that he feels or his opinion is such that the united states was founded solely on judeo-christian principles. i'm going to prequalify with the understanding i'm a catholic. i don't disagree somehow religion played a role in the founding of the united states but to solely separate judeo-christian principles as the only basis rubs me the wrong way. i think it marginalizes other religions and ethnicities. i would like your current guests comments on that. >> you are certainly right. there were people were practitioners of farrell conservative christianity. they wanted to make sure this country was not to be considered founded on the christian faith. in one of the early congresses, something was passed called the treat of tripoli to deal with the pirate incident ns the middle east. the senate you nan mustily passed that treaty. it says, this nation, was in no way founded on the christian fa

the reverend barry lynne will be joining us executive director of americans united for separation of church and state out with a new book that ed martin with us for the next 20 minutes or so. he's the president of eagle forum and taking your calls and comments. kerry is an elkhart, illinois line for independents. good morning. >> caller: good morning, thank you for taking my call. ed, wanted to ask we know at the caucuses of the games that are played in by big money and with trump if the kingmakers don't nominate them don't you think it would be a good thing if he wasn't a third party and by doing so do you think we could rake the gop, the establishment kingmakers? thank you. >> guest: thanks. first of all i had my boss as well as some of my mentors phyllis schlafly have never subscribed to the third party theory. i think of the one at third already or fourth party or fifth paper you have to go to europe. here we have a two-party system and i think we have got make a change. that's my first observation. i think it's a fools errand to encourage that too much in my opinion. but i do th

. >> host: barry lynne joins us now present a united and out with a new book god and government 25 years of fighting for equality secularism and freedom of conscience. it's a book that touches on your writings including this 2002 speech on page 61 lead -- where you say don't think the religious right understands government takes no sides and offers no help. that was a speech in 2002 i've included if anything changed medically from that time to now and it turns out these 13 years later it hasn't. i really think the religious right doesn't understand something fundamental. they understand the history in this country really demonstrates government works best and religion works best when you keep a decent distance between the two. the government shouldn't be hostile to religion. it should accept the claims of religion unless they come into direct conflict with the claims of someone else and their constitutional rights. i think we are better off when we keep that decent distance. i said in 2002 and i would say it's still true today. >> host: who is the religious right today in is that differe

she said barry lynn? i said yes. said i want to take a picture when he's lucky to get the girls at church. i said i am happy to do that, i do not charge. maybe i shouold. -- maybe i should. caller: before i asked my question, i need to get some clarification from your guest about, is he a christian minister? the united church of christ. caller: that means you are a follower of jesus christ? guest: that is correct. minister, that is a leadership role. you are there to minister to the people and guide them in what christianity is. christian, is, as a do you believe that abortion is ok? do you think it is ok for a an abortion under any circumstances? do think that abortion is a moral prerogative of each , atvidual, every individual any time in her pregnancy. is ar: i do not ask if it prerogative, and asking if you as a person believes that abortion is ok to take the life of an innocent baby in the womb? do you believe that is ok? that that baby has no rights, has no right to life, and that it is ok to have that life of

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. >> reporter: oakland police officer association president, barry donnel lynn says the officers who shot and killed a gun wielding man wednesday afternoon had no choice. >> this gentleman went on a rampage. he robbed citizens, tried to car jack people, running around armed on a major thoroughfare oakland. what are we supposed to do here? they claim the suspect was running away. the police say a preliminary autopsy revealed the suspect was shot in the front of his body. the officers association says videos shows the man pointing a gun at them. opd released this photo of the gun they say was found at the scene. the protesters, who marched through oakland witness night, say even if the suspect had a gun, officers did not have to use lethalle when white folks shoot a cop, this he get taken in alive. when black folks have a gun, they end up dead. >> reporter: they told abc 7 news, we urge people to look at the actual facts in each case in particular the recent case in oakland. >> there are groups planning a vigil and more demonstrations for friday night. in oakland, laura anthony, abc 7

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the reverend barry lynn joins us now. he is president of americans united for the separation of church and state. it is a book that touches on your writings, old and new including this new 2002 speech on page 61 in which you said -- i do not think the religious right understands that religions do best where governments do -- i included it to kiev anything had changed dramatically from that time to now. it turns out that it has not. i really think that the religious right does not understand something fundamental. they do not understand that the history of this country really demonstrate that government works best and religion works best when you keep a deep it -- a decent distance between both. government should accept the claims of