general barry mccaffrey there in honolulu.nk you, sir for your perspective and expertise on what has happened here. we continue to watch some of the video that just came in to us of those at the university of hawaii. this believed to be right after that emergency alert went out. that emergency alert said take cover and individuals it looks like in this particular video are doing that very -- are doing that very activity, and then 15 minutes later said, everything is okay. a false alarm. but boy, those were a scary at least 15 minutes for folks like that. now let's bring in msnbc contributor. great to have you here. you are still an intelligence officer in the u.s. naval reserve, i understand, sir, and you have the very same concern that we were just talking about with the general here. what might this give in terms of information to those who are watching in north korea about our preparedness? >> well, my personal view here is that there's three devilevel concern. is first is at the state level in terms of the failure to repor

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barry mccaffrey was saying trying to hide from a nuclear explosion is the last possible version of defenseor hawaii. for pentagon reporters we've tracked admiral harry harris, the top commander in the pacific who has been asking congress to speed up any types of plans to provide better missile defenses for hawaii. on the east coast, there are bases in california and alaska the military says could hit one of the missiles. if there are several icbms that's a problem. hawaii is too far out down the line. lot of people have been calling back into last year, since donald trump came to office to speed that up and get better defense of hawaii to knock down the missiles to people like your friend don't have to worry about rushing for cover. >> kevin, can you explain why it took 38 minutes to issue the retraction where it would take half the time for a missile launch to get from north korea to hawaii. >> people are out of practice and separate out the local authorities, who put out the first message to begin with, and we're in the middle of this shift change drill, whatever they're calling it, vers

retired four-star general barry mccaffrey, gulf war division commander and current msnbc management analystns us from hawaii, and msnbc's am mun moym mohyeld mohyeldin. is this tweet dangerous or is it inartful? others will say, remember, take the president seriously and not literally. if you take him seriously, look, he might be the reason the north and south are speaking, is what one might argue. >> yeah, well, it's certainly the kind of tweet that we've never seen from any president before. as you say, fact check, there is no button, there is a briefcase, there are codes. in a way the president is simply stating the obvious, he has access to those codes and the u.s. has the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world. does he need to spell all that out? maybe not, but he has. it's the global effectiveness that is more interesting. the white house seems to believe that kim jong un needs to hear this kind of direct talk and threat because that's what he's done for years, that's been his language, his currency for years. but there's no question that all of this also unsettles allies. foreign capit

i talked to barry mccaffrey, the former drug czar for bill clinton.was a retired general at the time. and look at the fact that he's a completely unqualified young man was running the white house office on drug abuse. >> well, this is a national emergency. i think it's been declared as such. and it is outrageous to have people not quite ready for primetime in that position, but i think it is also important for us to remember that this is not kind of one isolated episode in an important position. there's just a story, i think, in "the daily beast" about another deputy chief of staff so fresh out of college, several years out of college, that he lists on his resumÉ being an eagle scout. and michael steele, this is for you, he lists on his resumÉ an executive intern at the rnc. some of us got internships off our resumÉ a while ago. >> it says a lot about how to treat people in these positions, but it is really about putting people in this position to carry the kind of water they want them to carry. >> lynn patton at h.u.d., a trump official, taking on ap

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