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barry meyer had where written about them in his book painkiller which came out in 2003.eptember key owe necessary had written about them in dreamland which came out, i think n2015. but -- in 2015. but in both of those books, thing sack islers are one strand of a kind of multistrand narrative, one strand of a tapestry. and i was amazed when i started looking into it that they kind of still had their good name. it hadn't caught up with them even though it was out there in the public record. >> host: you couldn't even find their names on the purdue web site, could you? >> guest: to me, this it was thn job, part of what the family's beenen so good at for decades, marketing. in some ways the greatest con they ever pulled was to write the family out of the history of the family business. and i think i was just kind of astonished that even after barry meyer's book, it just didn't seem to have caught up with them. all kindso of institutions were still taking their money and putting the sackler name on things. so i wanted to write a piece like there was nowhere to hide. you could

barry meyer wrote a book that examines that dossier and the broader relationship between the intelligencespooked. thanks so much for coming on. it dawns on me that this is an hour-long conversation that we should have the having but in the next short period of time, tell us the connection between the intelligence community globally. how broad is it? how big is this? >> it's very big talker and thanks much for having me on. journalists get information's from all kinds of places, and from cia and law enforcement agencies like the fbi that but y what i focus on is this booming role of private intelligence or private spies, as i called them. this industry has exploded in the past decade and their connections with journalists have exploded along with it. >> tucker: if you are reporting out of story one of your concerns is being used by people feeding you the information for some purpose that you're not aware of. it seems like this arrangement is particularly vulnerable to that. >> it should be your first and foremost concern against a journalist. at the time, i spent most of my career with the

meyers." aidy bryant, writer and director of "the underground railroad" filmmaker barry jenkins, an all new "closer band with fred armisen and now seth meyers. >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers, and this is "late night. how is everybody doing tonight that's so good to hear let's get to the news. house republicans voted today to remove gop conference chair liz cheney from her leadership position, but they're already claiming it never happened after congresswoman liz cheney was voted out of her leadership position, former president trump mocked her on his website, saying, quote, "i look forward to soon watching her as a paid contributor on cnn or msdnc. says the business genius who calls into fox news every day for free liz cheney told reporters today that she plans to do everything she can to make sure former president trump, quote, "never gets anywhere near the oval office." oh, you know what you can do elect him. former president trump's acting defense secretary christopher miller testified today before congress about the pentagon's response to the january 6th capitol attack, and said he was