to try and get the scope in size of harold's evaluation, he joins us with friend of the show, barry riddle. howard, what has you making the assertion that neither of these may have the answer and both of them may be going with the rate of change that's happening in this country. >> it's beyond the presidential candidates. it's just that i think our economy is so misshapen and so screwed up that it requires fundamental reforms beyond the he ease of capacities of the president. i think barack obama's policies move us closer in that direction than mitt romney's and it moves us backwards. we have wages in this country stagnating or falling. people aren't getting more education, that gets harder and harder. foreign competition drives down wages, but also more and more of company revenues are going to profits and not wages. in fact, wages are right now at the lowest percentage, both of gross domestic product, and of corporate products than they've been in 50 years. they have to bargaining power and that's a very difficult situation to turn around. >> i see you're nodding, and i don't have any di