. >> i want your opinion of barry scheck and his evidence that obscured the dna and its blood evidence. >> guest: mary scheck. i had my biggest problem with him, johnny and i got along, carl and i always got along, i have problem with barry scheck because i knew he straight up lie . the new cna inside and out, he knew it very well. he founded the innocence project which is an important project that uses dna to exonerate people wrongly convicted. i sent a couple clients to them. but what he did in that courtroom was unconscionable. again we were objecting, but was overruled so i can only take it so far with what i think of barry scheck because the defense does what they do for the thing that's funny for me and i kept pointing it out but no one seemed to care is that his theories were conflicting. at one point he would say they planted the blood trail and then at another point he would say no, it all got contaminated in the lab and let me say one thing about that. the notion that bill then at her had oj's blood and sprinkled between monday and rocking him is absolutely insane. insane for