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. >> i am barry toronto. i want to give a shout out to dominick, who helped me at the front office.i do not think you are being very helpful. in the cab industry, there is a lot of psychology and sociology involved. it is not just about economics. when a driver has to take a lot of money out of his daily take, it hurts a driver. you try to convince them they get more tips using the credit card. you cannot really see that, comparatively. it takes a long time to process a credit card sometimes. the equipment has to be paid for. a 3.5% charge is a slap in the face to a cabdriver. the banks do not charge that much. this report addressed a lot of the psychological issues and problems. there is a requirement that drivers accept credit cards. what about requiring sick pay, pensions? they are not employees. they are a quasi-business. a lot of businesses get to charge an extra charge for credit cards. how do we figure out a way to add a surcharge to anyone who uses a credit card? it is only fair that anything under a certain amount

. >> barry toronto, john kyl. >> mr. toronto >> i think that you have done an important job taking back the feedback from the town hall meetings. so, i urge you to pass that on the electronic data. no. 13 is a problem. it is a sunshine ordinance violations. you made a substantial amendment change to the previous item, which is related to this one by making the change that it is the customer's choice. you go into a lot of businesses today, you give them the credit card and a process it based on their needs. based on how they want to process it. you are shoving down the throat in other places and forcing them on how they have to accept credit cards. in some places it is appropriate, safety. how, by making this requirement, yes, go ahead. the problem with some of these is, when you have a smaller vehicles, there is nothing in here that says what happens if there is passenger misuse or abuse of the equipment. does the driver get charged for that? there should be something in your documentation that says the driver will not g