so someone like barry weiss, you know, she left the new york times, the new york times for that. she was at the wall street journal. does he get more mainstream in that? and now she has her own media company. okay, good. that's a that's a good thing, i think for knowledge pursuit of truthful knowledge, it's a commitment to objective without politics and religion and ideology. decontaminated. yeah, very wise. and jordan peterson faced quite a backlash for. their process. yes, indeed they have yeah. i wrote i have a chapter in the book, as you know. and jordan i like jordan. i think he is, for the most part doing good wants to help. you know, i don't agree with all his mythological symbolism stuff, but maybe that's just me. and in case a lot of people seem to find a lot of value in what, he has to say and if that's the case and it makes their lives better, good what's wrong with that? you know, nothing. nothing's wrong with that. and i guess where he gets in trouble, we're all of us getting troubles on sensitive issues like race and gender. so my latest substack column is on is cal

>> so i mean, she was really vindicated and so was the free press and what's funny, barry weiss had tor due diligence on stories like these so she started the free press and she's been vindicated by the "new york times," albeit five months later, but this is i think indicating the fact that the left has realized that the rubicon is starting to be crossed and seeing the winds changing in europe and the world, whereas in europe and denmark, all across the world, there is a real sort of push to promote pru dense, it's not gender affirming care. >> and some of these so-called progressive european nations are saying we are moving way too fast on this, this has life-altering consequences which cannot be reversed, we need to take it slowly. you know, we have had on our program and she also testified in congress chloe cole detransitioning after she says she was pushed into the surgeries and treatments, and prisha as well, and an article says they had an outsize influence, they were representative cases and not the whole, but this says what they were saying is in fact true. >> and not only true

so i wanted to i don't know if you guys know barry weiss in october of 20, 21, she gave i think one of the best performances cnn that i think that i've ever seen she was on brian show the of blessed memory is on the do you say now defunct show called reliable and she was sort of informing and and educating him and his viewership about wokeness in the media and he played dumb he's very good and he so i don't i don't what you're talking about how what and she had to really sort of spell it out for him how wokeness impacted her work in the new times newsroom and what why she ended up leaving the new york times and so i just want to read for you little bit of her speech because it was one of the most powerful moments, i think, in network television the last couple of years. so she told brian, when you have the chief reporter on the beat of covid for the new york times talking about, ah, i'm talking about how questioning or pursuing question of the lab leak is racist. the has gone mad when you're not to say out loud and in public that there are differences between men and women. the world h

i mean, i listened to interview between listened to an interview between barry weiss, the amazing americansuch a profound question. she said, how do you feel be like leading this feel to be like leading this huge change? and he didn't really answer. and i thought creating a new species almost of things that are more intelligent than we are. >> michael walker should we be listening to the former head of mi6 ? mi6? >> well, it's quite bizarre. it's quite bizarre have come it's quite bizarre to have come out the covid 19 pandemic as out of the covid 19 pandemic as someone in know someone who was in the know and sort they've got less sort of saying they've got less trust from scientists now, obviously, got some obviously, scientists got some things covid things wrong during the covid pandemic, the pandemic, face masks at the beginning, it was beginning, but ultimately it was scientists that saved us with this that meant we could this vaccine that meant we could exit we could go exit lockdown and we could go back life essentially as back to life essentially as as normal. amount that normal. als