i am now degenerate into the same kind of repetitive mantra as bart simpson's alter ego. [laughter] >> someone also expect this argument to be held consistent consistently, and i'm trying to do here is to agree with that matter. well, protestant also defend contraception. in other words, in fact, the very strongly committed to urge contraceptives in many circumstances. not use contraception as a heterosexual, is to engage in this natural act and deliberately prevent it from reaching its natural end. so presumably in that sense, heterosexuals who use contraception are perverting the entire point of sexual interaction. the argument is a yes, but it's also about committing and love to one another. sex is an act of love in a committed relationship that will come unfortunate that are to can also plot obviously to gays and lesbian couples. so by by that argument. the catholics, of course, being sometimes very smart, and in 1968 realizing if we give this away, a lot of other things will follow. insisted that, though, the contraception is as bad as homosexual sex, for exactly the