i was trying to understandingnd the basal ganglia. >> charlie: right. >> i do not understand the basalanglia. i understand how they can cause all kinds of problems when they don't work and how we can help with that, with these ways of modulating activity but i think we really don't understand exactly what they're doing and i think the evidence is pointing more and more toward something wealked about which is plasticity and learning, and i think this probably will be a more important and profitable venture than trying to figure out what we have been studying to this point, and it's a long -- it's a big topic but that's where i think the answers will be. >> charlie: my colleague. >> i would like to see the kinds of logic we've heard tonight around this table applied more extensively to psychiatry. i think psychiatry is lacking in emphasis on anatomy, on how dierent regions function electrophysiologically and i think that kind of thinking needs to happen on a routine basis, and one of the things we were discussing before we came in here is to what degree ought to be a common training for