basem naim, welcome to hardtalk. you've been involved since the beginning of the ceasefire talks. a permanent ceasefire? this is our hopes, our main goal was how to stop this aggression, during the implementation. in the second phase, at least — to a permanent ceasefire and total withdrawal of the israeli forces from the areas occupied during the october — after october 7th. and how that will happen? on day 16 after signing the agreement. but our leadership is today in cairo, with the egyptian leadership. the second round of the negotiations, because we know that it will be very difficult, which have to lead to a permanent ceasefire and totalwithdrawal, plus a final prisoner exchange. hamas, of course, has new leadership. many of the senior military figures were killed. i think this is a hypothetical question, because palestinians have, for 30 years, tried through after the oslo agreement to achieve a political for 30 years, to implement its hidden agenda by annexing more land, by building more checkpoints, and gaza

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