whether it's consecutives -- >> do you think basheer should still be on msnbc -- >> i wasn't a fan. think he needed absolutely to resign. i think there is a lot to be said of people apologizing and moving on with their careers. >> i would say there is a difference between a news anchor who is representing your network, and a guy whose on a show that happens to be on your network. show -- a guy on a reality >> a reality show -- >> all about different walks of life -- >> i don't think there is a huge difference. that's the business they are in. msnbc was in the news business. this is an entertainer as a part of your brand. it -- with all of these media companies, these are brands and you're extending that by allowing whomever on your network to be on that network. you can pull somebody in or let them go at any moment. that's part of it. >> the duggers who have that terrible show how many babies that woman can have in one lifetime, they are socially conservative and one child works in the security research and they are against gay marriage and sinful. nobody is calling for that show to

he was an important figure behind the 1994 coup that brought president basheer to power. he was a negotiator in an agreement that ended the civil war in 2005. >> ukraine protesters are calling for marches for three weeks. they've been on the streets despite freezing temperatures. thousands demonstrated in kiev's independence square. >> south africans are uniting in of reflection in memory of l day nelson mandela. at his family home people are mourning. nelson mandela died this week at 95. u. u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon will be among the world leaders on tuesday. >> i'm joined from soweto. it's become a symbol of the antiapartheid struggle. haru mutasa, it's a day of reflection and prayer. tell us more about how south africans will spend their sunday. >> take a look at this. it's packed. people from all walks of life, and races coming to remember the priest is speaking. try to learn from mandela, try and do good things. other people are in synagogues. people will go to parks, sit with family and friends and discuss what they remember about nelson mandela. let's tell

everybody has an on, off switch so i think the society that shuts people up, of any -- you know, martin basheer he said, i wasn't calling for a boycott. i think it was despicable. that's what he believed, that's fine. if people want to watch that, watch that. i don't think you should. but to run people out of our society because they have a difference of opinion from us and a difference of approach is absolutely wrong, we become a -- i mean, look what we're doing. this week we're debating a "duck dynasty" comment and whether or not santa claus is white or black. >> are we too sensitive? are those not debates we should be having? >> is that a serious question? >> it's an attempt at a serious question. >> if you have kids in the room, turn the tv off for 20 seconds. i'm going to give you time. turn it off, find the remote. it's probably sitting next to you on the couch. time is up. santa claus isn't real. he's a fictional character. i don't know what color your imaginary friends are. okay. you can tell the kids to come back on. what are you nuts? that's the conversation we're having? we're talkin

everybody has an on, off switch so i think the society that shuts people up, of any -- you know, martin basheer he said, i wasn't calling for a boycott. i think it was despicable. that's what he believed, that's fine. if people want to watch that, watch that. i don't think you should. but to run people out of our society because they have a difference of opinion from us and a difference of approach is absolutely wrong, we become a -- i mean, look what we're doing. this week we're debating a "duck dynasty" comment and whether or not santa claus is white or black. >> are we too sensitive? are those not debates we should be having? >> is that a serious question? >> it's an attempt at a serious question. >> if you have kids in the room, turn the tv off for 20 seconds. i'm going to give you time. turn it off, find the remote. it's probably sitting next to you on the couch. time is up. santa claus isn't real. he's a fictional character. i don't know what color your imaginary friends are. okay. you can tell the kids to come back on. what are you nuts? that's the conversation we're having? we're talkin