two peoples one find reads this banner at the university of the basque country. many basques are calling for a referendum like that in catalonia. these days the council and independence movement is stronger than the basque one. but now when we express solidarity with the people of catalonia we always stress that we also want independence that means that where they must get them going to have been. brought back to already on day is an expert on constitutional law at the university he says that a fresh push for basque independence is underway in the past it was led by extremist parties and tainted by the movement's terror campaign but now it has mainstream support. that is a woman that calls for greater freedom more democracy for direct participation such as a referendum could become louder. even people who are not nationalists could become radicalized and want their voices to be heard. even bigger. the basques know from bitter experience how violent the fight for independence can get the at a separatist group killed hundreds of people over four decades this year it

"two peoples, one fight" reads this banner at the university of the basque country. many basques are calling for a referendum like that in catalonia. >> these days the catalan independence movement is stronger than the basque one. but now, when we express solidarity with the people of catalonia, we always stress that we also want independence. narrator: roberto uriarte is an expert on constitutional law at the university. he says that a fresh push for basque independence is underway. in the past it was led by extremist parties and tainted by the eta movement's terror campaign. but now it has mainstream support. >> calls for greater freedom, more democracy, for direct participation such as a referendum, could become louder. even people who are not basque nationalists could become radicalized and want their voices to be heard. narrator: the basques know from bitter experience how violent the fight for independence can get. the eta separatist group killed hundreds of people over four decades. this year it disarmed. >> things could turn out the way they have in catalonia.

in the basque country, it has not stopped nationalism. 0f country, it has not stopped nationalism.icher than the average is spain. it is not ridiculously rich. it is true, it is richer than the average. it is true there is a net transfer to the rest of spain. in the context of international countries, how others do it, we think of spain, catalonia is not the one who pays more. madrid pays substantially more. i'm sorry, time is against us. do you think that catalonia will remain part of spain? i think. i think it is the most likely thing. the situation will be extremely ugly over the course...|j can see you are distressed by this. do you think catalonia will remain pa rt do you think catalonia will remain part of spain? i do not know. i do not know what will happen. we need someone not know what will happen. we need someone to mediate between the spanish government and catalan. someone to mediate between the spanish government and catalanlj could not tell you now. a flavour of the debate going to be continuing throughout this week if not longer as preparations are under way for the

like the basque country. >> will catalonia remain peaceful? the basque people are keeping a close eye on the situation. only a minority are demanding independence. whatever happens in catalonia, it will be good for us. we have got to do something. >> in any case, basques do not want to return to the violence that toward the region apart in the late 1970's. be worse.d more radical, like it used to be. i just don't know. i am not worried. just the opposite, in fact. people want to stand up for themselves and win their freedom to. ancatalonia could set example for similar regions. will they send a message to other independent movements in europe? let's stay in spain. you are talking about the architecture of the spanish state. how fragile is that? >> the const touche and is not ready. it has to be reformed, clearly. we have 17 regions. at the beginning, only few of them were supposed to get autonomous status. and then quickly it came out everyone wanted to have one. everyone wanted to have autonomous status. >> each of these regions once more cof

there is a very natural solution, as you say, bring them into line with the basque country give themion. they have got no absolute material need to have independence to raise our living standards. there is a deal to be done but they have handled it so catastrophically badly and probably have increased support for independence. the eye newspaper has a story about the return of maintenance grants.” would love to know where they got the story from but obviously as the tory party trying to respond to corbyn's stupendously successful policy during the general election campaign. ican policy during the general election campaign. i can see why the conservative party, or the government, is trying to move in this direction. it is a u-turn. they must attract more young people. this direction. it is a u-turn. they must attract more young peoplem isa must attract more young peoplem is a u—turn. must attract more young peoplem is a u-turn. it is a u-turn, but you turnif is a u-turn. it is a u-turn, but you turn if you want to, the leader is not for turning, but there you go. the other aspect of th

in madrid i wonder if other spanish regions particularly the basque country. there how they are eyeing this confrontation. well it is structure in spain is quite complex to say the least i mean it's divided into seventeen autonomous communities and then some of communities from autonomous regions have a little bit more power than others one being the basque country and alluding a lot of i which is next to the best country on the catalans in many ways that sort of looked up to the autonomy that the boxes had. sent up to something or is it going to. approach tomorrow is taking the stage so let's listen in to what is going to say. well what kind of a more lit up like good afternoon do you suppose even vice president people thought as you consular step so you know you show us ladies and gentlemen and if you mean about the members of the parliament. i am now going to analyze the situation and after the results off the front of that celebrated on the first of october to explain the consequential consequences. i am sure like many of you. back then when. i hear. and f

two peoples one find reads this banner at the university of the basque country. many basques are calling for a referendum like that in catalonia. these days the council and independence movement is stronger than the basque one. but now when we express solidarity with the people of catalonia we always stress that we also want independence that means that where they must get that we're going to have that. roberto di on day is an expert on constitutional law at the university he says that a fresh push for basque independence is underway in the past it was led by extremist parties and tainted by the movement's terror campaign but now it has mainstream support that is at home and calls for greater freedom. if a direct participation such as a referendum could be come down to. even people who are not biased nationalists could become radicalized and want their voices to be heard. the basques know from bitter experience how violent the fight for independence can get the yet a separatist group killed hundreds of people over four decades this year it disarmed with the ottoma

per person behind other regions madrid the basque country and navarro. independence could have a downside for the catalan economy to hundreds of companies have chosen to move headquarters elsewhere in spain worrying that disruption and change in catalonia could upset their business that's cost the region billions of euros in lost opportunities many firms are coming up with backup plans in case of independence. the outlook here in barcelona is usually sunny but the economic clowns for those spain in catalonia won't go away as long as the independence question goes unanswered. time now for a quick market check up so let's bring in our wall street correspondent standing by . investors where i'm fresh sales numbers from the car industry give us the latest . september has been a very good month for the u.s. car manufacturers thirst specially general motors and ford increased sales so much more than expected and with chrysler there was the increase but now. as steep as the fear to well we had the huge americans here in the united states sold some car owners ha

per person behind other regions madrid the basque country and navarro. independence could have a downside for the catalan economy too hundreds of companies have chosen to move headquarters elsewhere in spain worrying that disruption and change in catalonia could upset their business that's cost the region billions of euros in lost opportunities many firms are coming up with backup plans in case of independence. the outlook here in barcelona is usually sunny but the economic clowns for those spain in catalonia won't go away as long as the independence question goes unanswered. well let's see how the turbulence in spain affects investors in the rest of europe today. frankfurt stock exchange what's the word on the trading floor there. well you know it's affected trading here because the dax reached a record high heard at the beginning of trading and then catalonia was one of the reasons some say the main reason for those for that record high being left and then the dax trickling away just in the recent little while the picture has brightened again somewhat

per person behind other regions madrid the basque country and navarro. independence could have a downside for the catalan economy too hundreds of companies have chosen to move headquarters elsewhere in spain worrying that disruption and change in catalonia could upset their business that's cost the region billions of euros in lost opportunities many firms are coming up with backup plans in case of independence. the outlook here in barcelona is usually sunny but the economic clowns for those spain in catalonia won't go away as long as the independence question goes unanswered. well the turbulence in spain is also having an impact on investor sentiment across europe. filled us in on the day at the france the stock exchange. well i think in some markets in europe it did have an effect that put a brake on the developments when i look at france or britain or britain of course with its own banks and worries or italy the trading there was nothing to write home about but here in frankfurt yes there were worries there were some concerns but certainly no panic bec

per person behind other regions madrid the basque country and navarro. independence could have a downside for the catalan economy too hundreds of companies have chosen to move headquarters elsewhere in spain worrying that disruption and changing catalonia could upset their business that's cost the region billions of euros in lost opportunities many firms are coming up with backup plans in case of independence. the outlook here in barcelona is usually sunny but the economic clowns for those spain in catalonia won't go away as long as the independence question goes unanswered. time now for a quick market check up so let's bring in our wall street correspondent standing by . investors where i'm fresh sales numbers from the car industry give us the latest . yes of kember has been a very good month for the u.s. car manufacturers thirst specially general motors and ford increased sales so much more than expected chrysler there was the increase but now. as steep as a deer too well we have the huge americans here in the united states still some car owners have t

in degrees of oak ptolemy if one goes perhaps others will want to follow like for instance the basque country which is still scarred by a long and bloody struggle for independence from madrid. will catalonia remain peaceful. people in northern spain are keeping a close eye on the situation but only a minority in the box community are demanding independence. whatever happens in catalonia it'll be good for us we're headed in the same direction we've got to do something. in any case basques do not want to return to the violence that tore the region apart in the late one nine hundred seventy s. . hope it could happen here like it did in catalonia but it could also be worse more radical like it used to be i just don't know. i'm not worried just the opposite in fact people just want to stand up for themselves and win their freedom. catalonia could set an example for similar regions will they send a message to other independent movements in europe. before we go to europe so let's stay in spain because you were talking about the the architecture of the spanish state how fragile is that architecture t

artists who want independence you have the same in spain of course with the top only but also basque country and maybe all this in the future it's the same in many other countries look at scotland in the u.k. or wales for example northern ireland mean it's it's very complicated a picture in europe and all governments are afraid to enter european union and the european commission are afraid of of opening the pandora's box by supporting one of the two factions either to matric government all the. independent secrets the republicans for it's call it that way but again it's very complicated because everybody knows that in the one that there is a real majority against it so the best would be probably that europe tries to offer its services to mediate between the two parties that could be depressed for the coming months. meanwhile spanish authorities claim the vote is illegal and unconstitutional and the e.u. commission has issued a statement in which it refuses to condemn the police violence and expresses its trust in spain's prime minister rest assured we'll be keeping right across the developin

in degrees of oak ptolemy if one goes perhaps others will want to follow like for instance the basque country which is still scarred by a long and bloody struggle for independence from madrid. will catalonia remain peaceful. people in northern spain are keeping a close eye on the situation but only a minority in the box community are demanding independence. whatever happens in catalonia it'll be good for us we're headed in the same direction we've got to do something. in any case basques do not want to return to the violence that tore the region apart in the late one nine hundred seventy s. . hope it could happen here like it did in catalonia but it could also be worse more radical like it used to be i just don't know. i'm not worried just the opposite in fact people just want to stand up for themselves and win their freedom. catalonia could set an example for similar regions will they send a message to other independent movements in europe. before we go to europe so let's stay in spain because you were talking about the the architecture of the spanish state how fragile is that architecture t

the end they shoot back in one thousand nine hundred five they have avoided violence unlike the basque country and that's been their strength and i think they're going to continue to ensure that while there are hundreds of thousands millions of people on the screens this will be a peaceful movement if you like that's one of the selling points and also an issue here is the economy when we've talked about ideology and politics but. companies effectively voted themselves didn't they after the announcement of this referendum and left catalonia i mean economically as a region it could easily be damaged by what's happened then it could be difficult for catalonia to operate is an independent sort of region. it could be able to know where you are a member of the would be is a relative economic success story barcelona is home to some of the how most successful high tech industries in europe what you've got to ask yourself is well spain of course doesn't want to lose because it puts far more into the spanish government's coffers than it gets back but does europe really want to destroy one of the success

the haves the first in a long time, but in the basque country, they did that before. —— perhaps the firstre speaking against what madrid thought, i would put in prison. six years, for instance, only then to be allowed to try to get peace. —— they were put in prison. we have heard from collis bridger mont, he has issued the statement, he says that he will take the matter back to the catalan parliament. —— carles puigdemont. he says there is a right to self or depression, and he has appealed to all of europe. if he does go back on monday and carries out a vote for declaration of independence, then this crisis risks escalating even further. back to you in london. the head of the world health organization has said he is " rethinking organization has said he is "rethinking the approach" as outrage widened over his decision to name zimbabwe's president robert mugabe a goodwill ambassador. a short time ago, the director general of the un health agency, tedros adhanom ghebreyesus, said on twitter that "i'm listening. i hear your concerns. rethinking the approach in light of who values. i will iss

per person behind other regions madrid the basque country and navarro. independence could have a downside for the catalan economy too hundreds of companies have chosen to move headquarters elsewhere in spain worrying that disruption and change in catalonia could upset their business that's cost the region billions of euros in lost opportunities many firms are coming up with backup plans in case of independence. the outlook here in barcelona is usually sunny but the economic clowns for both spain and catalonia won't go away as long as the independence question goes unanswered. find out how the turbulence in spain affected investors in the rest of europe today. at the frankfurt stock exchange. what was the word on the trading floor today about that topic. well i think in some markets in europe it did have an effect that put a brake on the developments when i look at france or britain britain of course with its own banks and worries or italy the trading there was nothing to write home about but here in frankfurt yes there were worries there were some concer

the only ones with real cases for autonomy are catalonia and the basque country.ns went along with it and then in 2005 proposed that the statutes of autonomy be amended. this went to the court of tribunal, the tribunal of constitutional guarantees, which sat on it for five years and it was during that period that independence feelings intensified. then in 201a there was an unofficial referendum which was allowed. reluctantly but seen more or less as a canvas opinion poll. the present situation could easily have been avoided. of course it is true that the spanish constitution does not permit the separation of any of the spanish constituent regions. however of course laws are written on paper and not carved in stone so technically it is possible for that to be changed. if the madrid government had looked at opinion polls and decided that actually probably only about a0% of the population in catalonia was in favour of independence, if they had been remotely intelligent they would've said go ahead, it will not be binding because that would be against the law but you c

per person behind other regions madrid the basque country and navarro. independence could have a downside for the catalan economy too hundreds of companies have chosen to move headquarters elsewhere in spain worrying that disruption and change in catalonia could upset their business that's cost the region billions of euros in lost opportunities many firms are coming up with backup plans in case of independence. the outlook here in barcelona is usually sunny but the economic clowns for those spain in catalonia won't go away as long as the independence question goes unanswered. time now for a quick market check up so let's bring in our wall street correspondent standing by . investors where i'm fresh sales numbers from the car industry give us the latest . here september has been a very good month for the u.s. car manufacturers specially general motors and ford increased sales so much more than expected and with chrysler there was a sales decrease but no. as steep as a deer too well we have the huge americans here in the united states still some car owners

compromise with catalonia catalonia has always sought to have the kind of tax situation that the basque country next door has where they collect most of their taxes spend it mostly within their borders that's a major complaint because they give more to madrid to madrid gives back but it could be at this point that this is been such a bad rift that the divide between the country and the region is so bad that it's going to be hard to bridge that gap all right. thank you very much. that live in barcelona now the two women who are accused of assassinating the brother of north korean leader kim jong un have both pleaded not guilty at the trial in a malaysian court a large international media contingent was at the courthouse to see the arrival of the indonesians and vietnamese suspects now they're both charged with killing. by smearing his face with a banned nerve agent at the airport in february they face the death penalty if found guilty florence city has more from the high court near. the two suspects from indonesia and one p. hong from vietnam have pleaded not guilty to charges of murdering kim j

per person behind other regions madrid the basque country and navarro. independence could have a downside for the catalan economy to hundreds of companies have chosen to move headquarters elsewhere in spain worrying that disruption and change in catalonia could upset their business that's cost the region billions of euros in lost opportunities many firms are coming up with backup plans in case of independence. the outlook here in barcelona is usually sunny but the economic clowns for both spain and catalonia won't go away as long as the independence question goes unanswered. so mixed let's bring in for the chief. longer spanker joins us now from there. how bad they would have breakaway of cup longer harm the spanish economy. i think of the harm will be felt because it is uncertainty which will prevail in such a situation and uncertainty means less capital investment because risks will be seen more significantly but it will have no impact to the rail the recovery of spain and told will we have seen growth rates of roughly three percent over the time over

i think that's one of the major underlying concerns here catalonia along with the basque country are the two wealthiest areas of the spanish kingdom and spain i think is very worried that they're going to lose this economic powerhouse should catalonia. become independent that said the cattle on independent us have been very clear in their desire to have a very smooth working relationship with spain should independence become a consummated fact so the economies are currently integrated and i think the idea of the catalan independent is despite all you might hear coming out of madrid is that they continue to be largely integrated one with the other definitely fascinating stuff thank you so much for sharing your expertise and insight with us professor thomas harrington professor of hispanic and iberian studies at trinity college thank you so much professor. thank you very much. and just yesterday a u.n. subcommittee ruled that chemical weapons sarin to be exact was used against civilians in shaikh alcuin back in april by the syrian government this is the first time a neutral body has co

much is given to catalonia and they are allowed to much in the way of independence, then the basque countryill also insist on it, and you can see some unraveling in spain. i think what he's got to do is sit down and try to see if they can extend more autonomy and then have a vote. i think you should call elections immediately and find out exactly what the people of catalonia want. because that referendum as you point out was just 2/5 of the population, basically. the calling elections i think is the key here. in both parties have to agree to do it. spain has been one of the stars, if not these star of the eurozone economically in recent years, growing by 3%. how much damage is this saga going to do to the economy? bill: if this goes on much longer, it could have a damaging effect, because two of the largest banks, and the third-largest bank is domiciled in catalonia. if thisave problems thing isn't resolved in a timely fashion. you don't underestimate that. vonnie, as an irish woman, you howmber your own history of britain denied home rule for ireland and ended up in the 1960 eastern rebell

thank goodness we are not in the basque country because so many we are not in the basque country becausebasque country because so many surnames begin with so we because so many surnames begin with so we would be here for a very long time. if you are just if you arejustjoining us, these are the pictures live inside the cata la n are the pictures live inside the catalan parliament, by this crisis, at its most intense for the past three weeks, is coming to a head. as the catalan parliament votes on a motion of independence. catalonia, its own sovereign state, with its own laws, going its own way, splitting from madrid. at the same time, in madrid, the senate is meeting. they were addressed by mariano rajoy, the prime minister, earlier this morning. and we expect them to agree to invoke article 155, imposing direct rule from madrid on this region. the first time ever this region. the first time ever this has happened, the first time ever article 155 has been invoked. the first time ever and autonomous region, one of 17 in this country, has sought to split away. we're hearing that when carles

per person behind other regions madrid the basque country and navarro.independence could have a downside for the catalan economy too hundreds of companies have chosen to move headquarters elsewhere in spain worrying that disruption and change in catalonia could upset their business that's cost the region billions of euros in lost opportunities many firms are coming up with backup plans in case of independence. the outlook here in barcelona is usually sunny but the economic clowns for those spain in catalonia won't go away as long as the independence question goes unanswered. u.s. president donald trump is in las vegas three days after a mass shooting at an open air concert killed fifty nine people there and injured more than five hundred tram touching down in the nevada desert a little over an hour ago is due to meet with survivors of the attack and first responders it was the deadliest mass shooting in modern u.s. history. well investigators have been trying to establish a motive for the attack which they say was prepared extensively and meticulously th

per person behind other regions madrid the basque country and navarro. independence could have a downside for the catalan economy to hundreds of companies have chosen to move headquarters elsewhere in spain worrying that disruption and change in catalonia could upset their business that's cost the region billions of euros in lost opportunities many firms are coming up with backup plans in case of independence. the outlook here in barcelona is usually sunny but the economic clowns for both spain and catalonia won't go away as long as the independence question goes unanswered. well let's see how the turbulence in spain affects investors in the rest of europe today. at the frankfurt stock exchange what's the word on the trading floor there. well you know it affected trading here because the dax reached a record high hit the beginning of trading and then catalonia was one of the reasons some say the main reason for those for that record high being left and then the dax trickling away just in the recent little while the picture has brightened again somewhat b

the basque country still wants to leave. the catalonian's want to leave.e a few others who would not mind getting out of spain either. you are assuming in buying the euro, it is going to hold together without a problem. steen: with all due respect, you are over interpreting. they want more independence. think this is really going down to what i stated earlier. is set the constitution up and the parliamentary system works in spain is the regions only have access to become senators who have very little power in terms of what happens with politics in madrid and spain. you need to change these countries. you need to step down and deal with this issue. spain it needs to be standing together. it is an issue that has been there for many years, but it needs to be dealt with by revision to the constitution in my opinion. i am kind of torn between two stories in europe. one is that there seems to be a drive driven by paris to take you up another step forward, and that is what investors are listening to up the moment. there is positive news in terms of the data which

sort of course but there's a diner there is flanders there is the but in spain itself is the basque country as well so that there's not enormous interest in fact there's a certain degree of insecurity about encouraging a new form of secession so and also of course the e.u. has been pretty adamant that. catalonia will not remain a member of the e.u. for achieves independence and this of course would be an enormous blow to the catholic independence movement that sees itself as profoundly european. the battle lines are drawn that we've heard from both parties if you like today. what happens next i mean the prime minister did actually leave that door open for dialogue and one of his comments do you think there's any chance that they will speak on that we're just going to see them more entrenched as we wait for the vote i don't think there's going to be any dialogue simply because they're both very committed to their positions. roy has always said he's open for dialogue but the dialogue would be about deepening the rights of the autonomy not about secession not about independence whereas the cat

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offer political responses to what the basque are asking for because there is violence in the basque countrypressed twice by the people of catalonia. mariano rajoy disputes that as well. just one point, if direct rule were imposed here it would be a massive change to the running of this region. surely it would be counter—productive? would not it feed the nationalist cause?|j not it feed the nationalist cause?” think there is no other solution. imagine a parish or a county in britain declaring they are above the law. we have to go back to the census and to the pitch which is the constitutional legal framework. i think the prime minister is basically going to use this article to order in regional elections. we are out of time. thank you both very much. both sides implacably opposed as you can see, even here with their supporters let alone with the cata la n supporters let alone with the catalan president and mariano rajoy. the energy regulator 0fgem has announced a price cap on energy bills for a million low—income households — saving them on average £120 a year. but a wider cap, proposed by t

know spain has got seventeen autonomous regions all with devolved powers many of them like the basque country for example would like their own process so why given that there is nothing in the spanish constitution that allows this referendum what is in catalonia just play like the rules like the other regions well if they play by those then there would not be there be no change that would satisfy satisfy catalans and you know i mean this but the government in spain is a government which was originally founded by members of franco's regime it's a government and you can say the same about the legal system as well that didn't go through massive forms in the one nine hundred seventy s. and we're seeing they're all thoughts having an attitude towards any national minority that wishes to be treated as such and wishes to actually be able to run its own affairs the problem is in madrid the problem is in madrid the ruling government in spain the part of the the popular they they understand this was voted in their two thousand and eight congress that there is only one nation in spain and that is the sp

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to be members of eta, the political wing, or the armed wing of a group in the fighting in the basque countrylion and sedition, the process means a prosecutor has to come up and present the charges to a judge and thatis present the charges to a judge and that is the identity nationale so the charges or outline of charge also go to a judge who'll then decide if those charges can be pressed and sometimes they have preventative arrests, that would seem to be unlikely now because mr puigdemont and the others are outside spain, or they could ask him to come and give evidence to the court. but at the moment, we don't know what is going to happen. the influential economic think—tank the institute for fiscal studies says the chancellor is caught between a rock and a hard place as he prepares his forthcoming budget. it says philip hammond will have to abandon his target for getting rid of the deficit if he's to meet demands from cabinet colleagues to increase spending. the treasury says it will continue to adopt a balanced approach. our economics editor kamal ahmed told us it has given the chancellor

with a problem in the basque country with terrorism, they did not accept.e it this time. thank you. the european commission has ordered internet giant and is pay more than £200 million in back taxes. it's been been investigating whether the company received an unfair advantage from a so—called "sweetheart" tax deal in luxembourg, where its european hub is based. in a similiar case, apple has already been ordered to pay the irish republic 13 billion euros in back taxes. take us through the basics. the european commission has been trying for some time to clamp down on multinational companies if things are giving favourable tax deals by european countries. in this case, it seems amazon was bringing profits from its european operations through an operating company in luxembourg. that operating company has to pay taxes. it then siphoned money out into a non—taxable partnership. in the form of royalty payments which we re the form of royalty payments which were ostensibly for the use of international —— intellectual property such as the amazon brand. just a devic

fully independent but too large for spain to let it go and become an independent region like the basque countrynathan: have you been using this as an opportunity to buy spanish bank credit? alberto: there has some been does there has been some widening in the spreads of spanish banks. we think the banks in spain are really solid, banks like santander hardly have any loss during last decade, even the crisis. they are very diversified in global. the local ones are also relatively strong and profitable . we have seen the usual tail risk priced into the euro zone where something like this happens, that usually the market tends to over and best -- overestimate this risk. we think there is a small buy opportunity and there could be for a few more days next week, but these banks are solid. alix: where else? all peripheries are selling off in terms of sovereigns, portugal, italy. where is this creating other opportunities? alberto: i think generally the periphery space has been a bit correlated again in the last few weeks. this year, europe has been a very positive surprise. everyone was bearish at the