and bassett in the maze a meeting among the ukrainians is needed among the ukrainians involving then president a leg selenski so this would have been early on and is president with several aides to discuss how to handle pressure from president trump and mr giuliani about investigating the bite and i don't i don't recall such you don't remember that ambassador in the may i believe it was the may 23rd meeting you talked about how the president. categorized ukraine what he thought about ukraine i believe that meeting was on may 23rd did you ever hear the president the linsky relay any concerns about you about how he fell about how the united states viewed him whether he was being taken seriously or any concerns about being used as a tool for political reasons well i saw that in an e-mail from ambassador taylor we obviously tried to. relate to president selenski the glass half full version of how the united states felt about ukraine not the glass half empty version which is we're here for you we support you and we're trying very hard to get you the meeting with president trump so after h

report on election meddling so knowing all these facts from high ranking ukrainian officials and bassett are probably makes a little more sense now as to why the president may think that there's. problems with ukraine and that ukraine was out to out to get him is that correct i understand your i understand your point yes chairman because you said you said in your deposition and i'm just going to make sure this was your read it back to you on page 279 for your legal team quote they are all corrupt this is your this is what you said about your conversation with the president so this is your words but what the president told you this is the may 23rd meeting that's correct they are all corrupt they're all terrible people and you know i don't want to spend any time with that and he also said they tried to take me down that's correct and they try to take him down i think any logical person that wants to do 2 plus 2 equals 4 games would say that i was in the 2016 election wasn't i believe that's what he was referring to yes right and he memory so during all this time i remember in the spring th

to do what he ran on ours or words to that effect and that gave me the impetus to respond to him bassett or taylor with the text that i sent as i said to mr goldman it was not an artfully written text i should have been more specific put it in quotes something like that but basically i wanted mr taylor ambassador taylor to pick up the ball and take it from there i had gone as far as i could go and you believe the president correct you know what i'm not going to characterize whether i believed or didn't believe i was just trying to convey what he said on the phone again at that point time that the pause in the a day was paused for 55 days there was a news article in politico on august 28th talking about it so by that point john the president had been receiving calls from senators he had been getting pressure to lift the a direct that's what i understand yes i want to turn back to your your opener on page 5 under. when you talk about in the absence of any credible explanation for this is benching of aid i later came to believe that the resumption of security aid would not occur until there

became in bassett or. probably one of the number one things that i want to put words in your mouth put on that the top of the list was making sure countries pay their fair share specially with nato yeah and we have a very capable embassador to nato so i'm not going to take her early lane but it's one of the but if you work with those countries it's one of the issues that you bring up in your meetings correct it is so and i know you weren't on the july 25th phone call but one of the 1st things that the president noted states brings up is germany's lack of participation and he names the president germany directly but they're not participating in helping out ukraine who's one of their neighbors that which i read in the train the transcript i've heard that yes so the whole idea that the president starts start out with he doesn't like foreign aid he doesn't think countries pay their fair share that's looking out for the taxpayer but there is more and we talked about this in your deposition we talked about it ab

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van men their recollections of those events simply don't square with my own or with those of them bassett or volker or secretary perry i recall mentioning the prerequisite of investigations before any white house call or meeting but i do not recall any yelling or screaming or abrupt terminations as as others have said instead after the meeting ambassador bolton walked outside with our group and we all took some great pictures together outside on the white house lawn more important those recollections of protests do not square with the documentary record of our interactions with the n.s.c. in the days and weeks that followed we kept the n.s.c. apprised of our efforts including specifically our efforts to secure a public statement from the ukrainians that would satisfy president trumps concerns for example on july 13th and this is 3 days after that july 10th meeting. i emailed tim morrison he had just taken over dr hill's post as the n.s.c. you're asia director and i met him that day for the 1st time i wrote to mr morrison with these words the call between selenski and poetess president of

recollection is that that is what ambassador chali was writing about and do you know whether the bassett or anybody from the embassy tried to make contact with the trump kept. talk about their concerns before lodging an op ed i don't know. you know during the same time period of the run up to the election me the minister of iraq off had said so and especially. and did things about then candidate trump on some very social media platforms or are you aware that. yes as a result of the deposition the previous deposition but but the during the relevant time period when it was happening you are aware of the you know i don't recall an ok he he's one of the more influential officials in the ukraine correct yes. i believe he's one of the few that spanned both a portion go ministration and his landscape ministration yes that's correct he looked looking back on his comments in hindsight did you see how that might create a perception that a very influential ukrainian was was you know how to katie against engender drum that he was doing what moms are just advocating he was use out to get him i mean h

same time that the secretary did not render assistance to a long serving and highly respected him bassett or he made 2 phone calls to rudy giuliani is that right. it's correct that he has seen a record that he made those phone calls one on march 28th and again the next day on march 29. saw the record of the yes right so we don't know what he said to rudy giuliani we have a pretty good idea what really rudy giuliani said to him get rid of you have an image she was gone in the state but never came forward right correct and when she was recalled and wanted to find out what happened secretary pompei would not meet with or i was out of the country at the time i can't comment on the all right what in then mr brack deal who is next in line didn't meet with or. i don't know this came for you to give her the news it went to the deputy secretary i believe held a meeting i was in foreign foreign travel at the time well be interesting if we could have secretary pompei o be here to to tell us what his conversations were with rudy giuliani the person who was fomenting the discontent about in a master w

to kiev ambassador bolton is office requested mr giuliani's contact information for me i sent him bassett or bolton the information directly they requested mr giuliani's contact information on august 26th i was 1st informed that the white house was withholding security aid to ukraine during conversations with them bassett or taylor on july 18th 2019. however as i testified before i was never able to obtain a clear answer regarding the specific reason for the hold whether it was bureaucratic in nature which often happens or reflected some other concern in the interagency process i never participated in any of the subsequent d.o.d. or d.o.'s review meetings that others have described so i can't speak to what was discussed in those meetings nonetheless before the september 1st warsaw meeting the ukrainians had become aware that security funds had yet to be dispersed in the absence of any credible explanation for the hold i came to the conclusion that the aid like the white house visit was jeopardized in preparation for the september 1 warsaw meeting i asked secretary pompei 0 whether a face

her while she was still ambassador undermining american diplomacy presidents appoint and remove him bassett is but usually done publicly criticize them as donald trump has and in real time during impeachment proceedings as we see it or testifying the president is attacking you would twitter what effect do you think that has on other witnesses willingness to come forward. and expose wrongdoing. it's very intimidating i want to let you know about sure that some of us here take witness intimidation very very seriously later trump hit back. so you know what i what i have the right to speak i have freedom of speech just as other people do regarding the central accusation of the impeachment inquiry you benefits wasn't in post when trump withheld aid to ukraine allegedly to get ukraine's president to investigate joe biden tribes political rival whose son was paid significant amounts on the board of ukrainian gas company in the run up to the 2020 presidential election what everyone is watching for is whether the threat of impeachment affects trump's popularity right now the polls say it doesn't. we

and watched and sort of following it blow—by—blow and today was significant insofar as we've had in bassettlliam taylor who was the investor to ukraine giving testimony and he has tied, albeit still relatively indirectly, donald trump of the conversation to the european ambassador, well the us ambassador to europe, gordon saying all of this aid was dependent on this probe into thejill biden. and that's relation but a conversation with someone else. i'm recently back from california and what struck me there was admittedly, a highly liberal supporting antitrust area, but a view that whatever goes on nobody seriously expects trump to be impeached or to be thrown out of office to be more exact. but the process and what happens in the perception of what happens in these hearings may well come to the jury, the ultimate jury which is the electorate next november. perfect place to that's it for the papers this hour. david and anna will be back at 11.30 for another look at the papers, and don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you —

i spoke to the former england defender, laura bassett.ired him it was all about the world cup. just because things aren't going your way i do think you scrap everything, you scrap change. i do think that is required. you stick with each other, you stick together through the bad times and the good. there are always hangovers from major tournaments especially when you don't get what you set out to get. but i think this hangover has been going on far too long and that has been verbalised. it is time for change and we have to start seeing that performance goals. the coverage of the lionesses on bbc two at the next few minutes. in either our top story. raheem sterling has been dropped by england for the match against montenegro on thursday for disciplinary reasons. gareth southgate says we had a family and families have disagreements. goodbye from me. now it's time for a look at the weather. for the middle part of the week for wednesday, it feels dry, a break from the wet weather but it will be a short—lived affair. we have still got flooding

doesn't include house democrats in the context of this impeachment inquiry specifically addressing him bassett or you have on of it you i know is a friend of yours. you know alleging an abuse of power and in nationally televised interview a member of this committee said quote it's an abuse of power to remove an ambassador for political reasons because you don't like what they're doing period and quote that's not true is again i go back to what i said the president has the right to have a baster serve at his pleasure ok so you agree with me that we shouldn't impeach a president for exercising his constitutional authority i'm here is a fact witness to answer your questions your constitutional obligations consider the evidence before you so when did ambassador evanovich get recalled from ukraine . i believe a message was sent on or about april 24th ok certainly well before the july 25th call that's in question here correct without a doubt and she she had no remaining responsibilities with respect to ukraine policy for that 3 or 4 months in between i take it she is now a she she was transferred to

starring angela bassett and lawrence fisburne. >> why did you stay so long?couldn't leave because too many things would be destroyed. and i stayed because i cared. and when the time actually arrived i had no longer cared because i was living death anyway so. >> reporter: "living death" became a feeling so painful, so despairing, that it led tina to try to take her own life one night in the late 1960's. she wrote in her memoir, "i simply couldn't take any more and swallowed 50 sleeping pills." a decade later, tina finally found the courage to leave ike. >> tina turner probably brought more attention to domestic abuse than anyone had up to that point. >> she played an amazing role in making sure the world understood that this should not be tolerated in any way going forward. >> reporter: when their divorce was finalized in 1978, she was penniless. >> he owned her, i mean actually. >> he owned all the publishing rights and she couldn't the songs. >> no promoters would book me because they say, well, "it's not ike and tina. she doesn't have a record. there's noth

stephen: you were in bassett are in both venezuela and colombia where you saw firsthand the close relationship between the other is admitted terrorist organizations. what recommendations would you have for the government and friends and neighbors of columbia for dealing with these terrorist organizations? key country innd this regard is columbia, since that is the target of the entire leadership and the --onstituted units of the the colombian administration does not want to be seen as responsible for military provocation or challenge at the border and yet, the problem or at least the heart of the 100 or lies 10 or several hundred kilometers inside venezuelan territory, from which these organizations operations into and directed against the government of colombia and its constituent parts. into tricky -- it is tricky. i am comfortable, i am retired now, comfortable throwing out ideas that cause some people a degree of concern. i have been heard to say publicly a number of times, what surprises me right now is not the people are talking about some sort of military component to a solution here, b

at the end of august we understand that bassett or taylor was engaged in.obtaining some information for the president about the european allies burden sharing in the region as the decision about aid was being debated. so sir after the hold was placed on the security assistance and many people i think we're scrambling to try to understand why. i believe in senator johnson who had said the president was concerned about burden sharing perhaps others as well and so trying to interpret why this might happen we were looking into the facts of what the europeans provide have provided and what we provided. very illuminating we learned united states has provided combined civilian and military assistance to ukraine since 2014 of about $3000000000.00 plus 21000000000 dollar 31000000000 dollar loan guarantees that's not those get paid back largely. so just over $3000000000.00 the europeans at the level of the european union plus the member states combined since 2014 my understanding have provided a combined $12000000000.00 to ukraine and you were able to communicate tha

he is trump's friend bassett are for the european union. he is sort of at the next is of all of these events. he pops up on various phone calls with the president. he is there in the july 10 meeting with the ukrainians in the white house, this is the meeting if you remember where john bolton storms out of the meeting, because he does not like what he is hearing from sondland, where if you let it -- if you investigate the bidens, and help president trump, we will release the aid. he is also on the phone call, july 26 phone call with president trump where he is in a restaurant in kiev, holding the phone up to allow other people at the dinner table to listen in on the conversation. they hear president trump's voice and there are staffers who have testified behind closed doors already that what the president was talking about was asking about the investigations, the quote, investigations, presumably about the bidens. he was very engaged and at the center of this entire episode. today,he lead story sunderland is the pivotal piece to the puzzle.

and bassett errors and this is a good example that we can point to yeah and maybe some of the presidential candidates will pick that open to their platform for next november we will see. you as political analyst and bosch tailor and connelly our very own correspondent you have to both of you thank you we appreciate your insights tonight you. just to prove my so in this election i think it does i think you're going to. be very good just very just very briefly the position clear we will have a referendum throughout. the will of god by that result. well that was britain's political elite holding their 1st candidates debate ahead of the general election that's scheduled for next month and as you heard both prime minister board's johnson and labor leader jeremy corbyn they drew mocking laughter from the listening voters but twitter it's not laughing about the conservative contribution the social media giant issuing a warning to prime minister boris johnson's conservative party after the party changed its twitter presence during the debate and this is important to check this out it normally look

bassett i was there contact them for a goal and. i think it's it's just wonderful to me to just be able to get up on stage and watch the people smile and feel good i mean some of them have terminal diseases and they come to my shows and for 2 hours they forget their problems you know. and if i could do that for as long as i can do it i'm going to do it because it helps people. 1160 on the list for me call mr the town couldn't his come up and that's his and his last good yeah london listening. yes. there we go. the freak electric bat i'll. just. play. play. play play play play play live this is. live it up. and the flim play. play play play play play play play play. play play. live. but live . and. play live. ittner delicately. listen to it i messed me up so that the fury my guts. the touch my gut thallus . thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you ok. come in on one addition in ones of the month before coming on sen yeah ok well if you are going to bring a book so you want it i don't feel how you know the offer yet

bassett or taylor describes as the irregular channel. he he was a purchase a parent with you you an ambassador psalm 1. 150 messages correct correct and so he did he ever raise concerns about. what was what was going on during the time period of the early august time period of only as you saw all reflected in the text messages themselves where he said is this now a linkage or are we doing this he had a concern about just in general you know rudy giuliani who think all of us had to but the issue is what do you do about it. about the role that he's playing. and as you noted we were in frequent contact near daily contact throughout this entire period and so did did he ever engage you in a one on one telephone call to articulate his concerns not know we were on many one on one telephone calls he did not raise those concerns that way now ok and this i mean you're. experienced diplomat at one point time senate confirmed ambassador simon is a master to the european union secretary perry's. secretary of energy certainly not. doesn't sound like a

well this is a bombshell we have to say what we heard from bassett our son plans today in his opening remarks because this is the most significant evidence so far directly tying presidents trump to the quit pro quo for ukraine to announce investigations into his political rivals and abbesses a sandland said today that the quid pro quo came from rudy giuliani president's tromso personal lawyer but that inner circle was were a were of what was going on his acting chief of staff his secretary of state and suntanned talk also about step president and i quote here we follow the president orders he said or we knew those investigations were important to the president he said or we followed the directions of the president so he is tying the president as i said here directly to this quid pro quo and now it will be interesting to see how the republicans are going to react or and what's the white house is going to do if the president is going to dismiss this testimony or if he may be thinking about throwing his personal lawyer rudy giuliani under the bus on the phone naaman there in washington t

networks of bulgaria and ukrainians both countries were incensed enough to issue a formal protest and bassett is holding to explain my comments across statement is outrageous because he is a participant in the normal deformed that and should be specially careful in choosing where spot ukraine and ukrainians involved area and e.u. country this was another example of the east west divide within the union french president my current statement is just another demonstration of political arrogance cheekiness what's also puzzling for bulgarians is the somewhat muddled reference to illegal immigration given that it's an e.u. country and its citizens have the right to work anywhere across the union including in france excuse me but it's really able to talk about bulgaria does he know the bulgarians well enough to talk about them like this. i find such behavior towards us totally unacceptable however it is clear that there are criminal networks from bulgaria operating here in france and this it seems is what mark corn has issue with but her. why do people in paris feel about mcewan's preference for wor

actors joshua bassett, olivia rodrigo, sophia riley and matt cornett all navigating the halls.? the original. >> i grew up watching it obviously. my first show was high school musical a local production. >> it affected so many people of all ages. i had barbie dolls and a high school musical tank top. >> you know that school musical thing? >> growing up, i genuinely felt like troy because i played basketball and was in theater. >> reporter: it's a modern interpretation for a generation who grew up loving the 2006 story of teenagers breaking free from the stresses and stereotypes of high school. first thing people are going to think about is whether all of this music is brand-new or some of the music is nostalgia. >> i'd say we probably do one song from the original movies and one song that's completely brand-new and was written just for this series, and so that's really great, and i'm actually really excited that a new generation of kids are going to have their high school musical sound track. >> reporter: it was a genre that would help pave the way for "glee." and helped break

may have been and that you did what they may have been and that you did not discuss them with them bassett or yvon of it that still correct this or furthermore you said it upset you to hear about the many indications of ukrainian election meddling your precise words we're going to read them back to you based on this political article which again surprises me disappoints me because i think it's a mistake for any diplomat or government official in one country to interfere in the political life of another that's disappointing unquote us retailers that still your testimony. mr ames it is subsequent to that i've looked into the circumstances for 'd several of the things that you just mentioned. in 2016 candidate trump had made a statement saying that it was possible that he would allow crimea to go back to russia and he expressed that you stress the sentiment or the opinion that it's possible that crimea wanted to go back to russia what i can tell you mr nunez is that those that sentiment is amazingly inflammatory to all ukrainians. so 'd so i think so i can understand that. are you aware durin

to jail for trying to get the truth out while the person who was at one point the most senior in bassett or in the entire state department was testifying on friday at the impeachment hearings president trump was trashing her on twitter in real time is that what you call witness intimidation. well in the case of that ukraine gate whistle blow worse it is not the classic speaking truth to power for starters there's more than one there's several ambassador taylor curran all then men and they are all standing together or frankly i kind of see it the opposite way as if trump is actually the whistleblower because he has criticized the intelligence community it's well known from even the start that they've been against him and he has you know criticized in some cases rightly so so you can see this from different angles and it's not at all the classic case of the tipster who got it started is not even relevant because he did not know the facts and now all of these new people that are testifying as cooperate in witnesses are more like the whistleblower that you would you would talk about because

hearings began at 1st it was well they didn't hear directly from the president then it was well yes and bassett are suddenly saying it was a quid pro quo but did the president actually ever use that term and when you are moving your defensive position you are certainly in a weak position i think that the real question now is whether or not we will see some of these fox news observers from the conservative channel here in the u.s. start to entertain the idea that maybe the president did something wrong which will give political cover to those republican senators who will ultimately have to vote to remove the president. police in colombia have tried to disperse demonstrators who've been marching against government plans to introduce pension and talks reforms workers unions and students gathered in the capital bogota what's been described as the biggest demonstrations in recent years protest has also blamed president even do case government for the failure to prevent killings of human rights activists and widespread corruption. he has the latest in the capital almost . the spike the rain this is b

bassett or gordon solomon at 1st says there was no quid pro quo but after being implicated by other witnesses he says his memory has sharpened in someone's amended testimony released tuesday the ambassador says he now remembers telling you crane in officials that the security money wasn't coming unless you cranes president publicly announced investigations into trump's political rivals all of the witnesses agree that the president engineer a shakedown of the ukrainian government someone was a wealthy trump donor and was rewarded the top european job despite having no experience in diplomacy analysts say his change in testimony strengthens the case against trump i think the president if it can be shown that he directed his subordinates to withhold congressionally funded military assistance until the state of ukraine was prepared to issue a public announcement that they were investigating joe biden and a firm connected to his son i think that's right down the middle line of abuse of power investigators also released the testimony of former ukraine envoy kurt volker he said he knew security 80 u

from the impeachment inquiry that there was a coordinated effort as ambassador gordon saw in linda bassett or to the european union said in testimony on wednesday everybody in the administration all the senior leaders knew that the u.s. was was trying to engage in a quid pro quo exchanging military aid to ukraine for a promise that they would publicly announce that they would investigate joe biden. and that also a number of senior officials were directly aware of that and these calls drop connect those dots and suggest in fact that pump a 0 himself was involved and given all that time that this this information a submission came from a freedom of information request how does it play into the impeachment inquiry itself. well it's helpful to the impeachment inquiry because the white house is not cooperating the white house's position is that that inquiry is not legitimate and so no one in the administration has to either testify although several have and they don't have to supply documents so documents like this have not been turned over to congress so when this outside group filed a freedom

reasons and i think most americans agree that a president shouldn't fire ambassador or recall him bassett or because the ambassador is standing in his way of doing a corrupt act so i want to ask you did the president ever tell you why he was recalling you. did anybody at the white house ever tell you why you were being recalled now did the president ever consult you about who the good guys and the bad guys were in the ukraine now did secretary pompei o ever tell you why you were being recalled. and it appears in the testimony that we've heard in the intelligence committee so far that there were a group of the president's men perhaps secretary perry rudy giuliani ambassador sunline. who were in on this scheme to help the president get the bidens and investigated and i want to put aside president trump for just a 2nd and ask you in all of your years of service have you ever come across a president been asked by a president or known of colleagues who were asked by an american president to have to help the help that president get an american investigated overseas. i'm not aware of that. and i

that she would be recalled early the barrage of allegations directed at ambassador vonnegut's career bassett or is unlike anything i have seen in my professional career following president elect as alinsky victory our attention in the embassy focused on getting to know the incoming zelinsky administration preparations for the now gratian scheduled for may 20th the same day that ambassador vonnegut's departed post permanently it was it quickly became clear that the white house was not prepared to show the level of support for the selenski administration that we had originally anticipated in early may mr giuliani publicly alleged that mr selenski was quote surrounded by enemies of the us president and canceled a visit to ukraine shortly thereafter we learned that vice president pence no longer plan to lead the presidential delegation to the niger age the white house then whittled down an initial proposal list for the official presidential delegation to the not duration from over a dozen individuals to just 5 secretary perry as it's had a special representative for ukraine negotiations kurt vol

wrecked his voice was recognizable to as you say here when the conversation shifted i can only hear him bassett or someone side of the conversation yes or as i testified they nischelle part of the call and master song when sort of when the president came on the call he sort of winced and held the phone away from his ear. for the initial portion the call and then at some point the call he stopped doing that and i don't know why i don't know if you turn the volume down out of the president spoke less more quietly and he got used to that volume i don't know what changed what did change it's important this was memorable i don't know sir it was better some one stop moving the phone away from his ear that's that's what it was yes ok of the conversation and i only heard about her song one side of a conversation sir and at the end of a conversation he said he said. this is getting a president vice on how to deal with this as if you rocky situation and he said it you know he should have they should have released him on your word and you can tell the court actions you tried and so to be clear when presid

you said all i can testify to is what i know that mr giuliani either told me directly or told him bassett or volcker and others that was relayed to me thank you you know back was turned investor son when i want to walk through some of the portions of your testimony because sometimes you seem to make direct connections and sometimes they seem to be dead in this i kind of want to clear up one of the dead ins and one of the direct connections yesterday ambassador volcker who i consider to be very talented and a man of integrity and i believe you think he's a man of integrity correct i do he testified that the president i'd states did not talk i either a meeting with the president a phone call or any aid to investigations of breeze and 2016 or the bidens that there were that the president did not do that and you testified that the president did not tell you that he tied them either correct i did testify to that although when ambassador volcker and i were working on the statement and negotiating with the ukrainians it was clear to him bassem or volcker that a meeting would not happen. without

and at that point time after the meeting bassett or bolton did did he head off to work saw with the vice president or did he just. i know you went to work so well we had a few stops between ukraine and poland but yes besar bolton proceeded to warsaw where we were expecting. to ensure everything was staged properly for the president's arrival and did you have an opportunity to brief the vice president on i did not read about your bolton he did and what would he remember from what ambassador bolton shared with the vice president about the meeting so i buy was not there. the issue i remember most starkly was ambassador bolton was quite annoyed that ambassador sawmilling crashed the previous ok but the ambassador had everything he needed to ensure that the either the from the president or the vice president were well prepared did you brief embassador bolton before he had an opportunity to meet with the vice president i didn't need to why was that and that's what was there ok. but but as far as you know ambassador bolton communicated to the vice president that. the goings on in ukraine were m

now did you have a conversation with embassador bolton after the subsequent meeting with them bassett or son i had a discussion with ambassador bolton both after the meeting in his office a very brief one and then one immediately afterwards the subsequent meeting so the subsequent meeting after both meetings when you spoke to him and relayed to him what ambassador sunland what did ambassador bolton say to you well i just want to highlight 1st of all that. the bolton wanted me to hold back in the room immediately after the meeting again i was sitting on the sofa with a colleague right we're just in that 2nd meeting what what did yesterday was he was making a very strong point they wanted to know exactly what was being said and when i came back and related to it to him he had some very specific instructions for me and i'm presuming that that's what was estimated as instrument specific instruction was that i had to go to the lawyers to john eisenberg a senior counsel for the national security council to basically say you tell isenberg ambassador bolton told me that i am not pos of this w

knowledgeable people about europe he's absolutely truthful man mr kant would you agree with them bassett or taylor that he's of the highest integrity i believe kurt volker has served the u.s. as a public servant very well do either of you have any evidence that mr volcker committed perjury or lied to this committee in his test him in his testimony of this committee do either of you have any evidence that kurt volker perjured himself or lied to this committee in his testimony investor taylor any evidence mr i've no evidence scant. i believe volcker's deposition was over 400 pages and i don't have it in front of me so i can't get what you have no evidence that he lied or perjured i have no basis to make that judgment no matter what we're not in a court gentleman and if we were the 6th amendment would apply and so would rules on hearsay and opinion and most of your 2 testimonies would not be admissible whatsoever but i understand in your profession you deal in words of understanding words of beliefs and feelings because in your profession that's what you work with to try to pull together po

that ambassador volcker, secretary perry, and i were meeting with ukraine officials in washington, bassett or taylor received ache -- ambassador taylor received a communication that giuliani was still talking inh the ukrainian prosecutor whatsapp messages -- ukrainian prosecutor. in whatsapp messages, ambassador taylor wrote to us -- just had a .eeting with andre and vadim taylor said the ukrainians were "very concerned about what let told told them -- lutsenko them, that according to rg, rudy giuliani, the meeting will not happen he responded, good grief, please let the u.s. government representatives speak for the u.s.. interests.s his own taylor confirmed he communicated that message to the ukrainians and added, i breached -- briefed ulrich. everyone is in the loop. three things are critical about this whatsapp exchange. while the ukrainians were in washington at the white house, mr. giuliani was communicating with the ukrainians without our knowledge. ambassador taylor, voelker, and i were all surprised. second, mr. giuliani was communicating with the reportedly corrupt ukrainian prose