first batya is a deputy editor of "newsweek." if or that she was the opinion editor of the largest jewish media outlet in america and she's written for places like the "new york times", "washington post", foreign policy to name a few. she also holds a phd from the university of california at berkeley and when a book comes out in about a week go get it. it's fantastic. we're also joined by virginia heffernan who is currently contributor at wired. she is author of magic and loss, the internet is art. she's been around the tech world for years. i look forward to talking to her off-line more at tech. i was rountree web 1.0 in 2.0 out in palo alto, amazing times and so much julie written about that. before joining the staff at wired she worked for the "new york times" editorial op-ed columnist for the "l.a. times." she also, like batya, has a phd in this phd is from harvard. she likes to say that she stumbled onto the internet in 1979 in the back office then for pervasive and i can't wait to hear views on this. and finally thomas chat