next, the bawsca board also authorized bawsca's porpgs in the next-level studies -- participation in the next-level studies. los vaqueros is an existing reservoir in contra costa. the current m.o.u. has expired for the work, and that work was to secure the bond moneys, and so this is the next m.o.u. for basically the final piece of the planning work to be able to make a decision by the winter of 2019 about whether we're going to form a j.p.a. and be a participant in this process. this is another significant development that feeds into the question of where are we going to get our next supply of long-term water supply projects. this is november 2013 to november 2018, and our use, while still lower, november 2013, that delta is smaller than it's been. so it's 8% less. i don't have a great answer for you why yet. it's something we're continuing to look at, but again, it's -- as we continue to track and watch these things, these are the important questions we're asking and try to figure out in our demand study to figure out what is going on in the future and what we think is really happe

the parties to the agreement include bawsca, but it doesn't include hayward and alameda, which are two alameda -- alameda, and the city of hayward. those are two entities that are going to be pretty important to any kind of regional cooperation that it talks about. the question, i'm not sure how to ask it and i'm not sure how the answer -- >> one correction. it does include the alameda county water district. >> it does? >> yeah. >> and hayward. >> well, it depends on how the tie is interconnected. they are very interested in any discussion. i'm -- i don't think that any future thing would actually go necessarily through that same kind of plumbing on that intertie. that's their biggest concern. they're an interested party here, but they're not putting resources into it. >> well, i guess that's my concern. i mean, as we've looked at various ways, if we deal with desal, regional desal, water has to get to that area, and hayward is in that line. >> it's an option, but it's not a particularly attractive option compared to los vaqueros expansion and the aqueduct, coming all the way around. i