obviously, it's been a significant effort, but the bawsca board and i remain committed to it. [ please stand by ] >> it continues to raise a question of what our future demands will be and how that will be important to our future decision making. with that, that concludes my comments. >> thank you so much. i think the water transfer pilot is very exciting, and i'm all paying and believe we will be able to learn a lot from what you learn, and i know we are heading into further deeper conversations about water supply and i would hope that from the p.u.c.'s perspective, even as you are undergoing your project and your learnings that we could deeply explore water transfer, and what we could do to really maximize both conservation and supply. i appreciate your bringing it to life, and if there's a way that we can at least have the conversation and explore the possibility of these water transfer mechanisms and understanding the differences in our situations, it could be very productive all the way around. >> what is the current status of that? >> hayward has concerns, gratefully about the im