this is the period when san francisco's bay area rapid transit comes in. you know, this is a very interesting period, the mid '70s and late '70s because, in fact, people began buying smaller cars. there was, there were great strides made towards energy conservation. ford talked about energy conservation, ford and carter both tried to work on the subject, and carter in particular talked about the need to free ourselves of dependence on this single commodity. but, you know, his message was not received very far well. very well. and -- [laughter] every president since then has been haunted by the fate of jimmy carter talking about oil and energy self-sufficiency. he, again, like the shah he was probably ahead of his time in that the public was not ready to hear that, certainly he got beat up in the media. he gave that famous speech that some of you will recall called the malaise speech. i don't think the word "malaise" is in that speech. it's the way it was spun after this event. and actually when he gave that speech, his opinion poll ratings shot up. initial