but i think carr to bdm may be better for a topic as difficult. there is not a lot of graphics murder there are terrible takings' but it was more by dilution it i began to noticed cartoons had harder it topics with you to receive persepolis in khartoum. -- cartoon there is some tortured most alluded to in the book. millions of people bought that and kids knew about and i thought it is an interesting medium but not for fun or basic material but tough material like economics. slide began to look around for the artist i did talk to one man i did not work with but he said this is known to us he goes up to white river junction cartoons are they gateway drug to content. [laughter] i love that. said gateway drug to content. we get that. and that is true right wing or left wing and the former education secretary said first by a red cartoons than of bridge in english i never got to the greek but a lot of us learn that way. first that then the big grammar. i went on the hunt for an artist to give a lot of seconds of time to draw my complicated book he lives