in this case, it's mount beatitudes. if you're familiar with the beatitudes, sometimes called jesus's first sermon - well, we were there; we're walking by the sea of galilee, we're standing there. and the roll-in i want to show you, just a short piece, is from a beautiful little chapel called mount beatitudes. now, if you're thinking about this in terms of our six dimensions, we have, first off, identity and relationship. if you know the beatitudes - and i think i come out and read a few of them out of the bible - that's exactly what jesus is talking about, a new way of being, identity, and a new way of relating. "blessed are the poor in spirit," that kind of thing; "the meek will inherit the earth"; "turn the other cheek," rather than punching somebody out if they get you angry - these are different ways - a different ethical system. and so what we're going to do when we see the roll-in is to try to think, "well, now here is the original setting, the geographic setting where this occurred. then we see the development of

i believe in the beatitudes and the corporal works of mercy. and i believe in the dignity of every individual. >> rose: you a believe the church with the views on abortion that it does or on divorce that it does is the church you believe in. >> i think, i am, you you know, i do believe in greatly value my faith. i also believe that sometimes the hierarchy of our church fails to recognize that those of us who perform the public service of making sure that our laws treat people equally under the law, and that we protect religious liberty, have to be-- have to be mindful of the fact that we are a diverse country. that we're a country of many different faiths. and ihink sometimes i think that some members of the hierarchy lose track of that. but i do believe that catholics will support president obama because i mean look, look at the-- . >> rose: there are more nuns than priests. >> you look at the medicare. i heard james carville say, tell you what, we would rather have the nuns than the bishops, frankly, because the people are more likely to list