beauvais sides the story, reporting the enquirer quote, has supported mr. trump's presidential bid endorsing him and publishing negative articles about some of his opponents. beauvais is pointing out that ben carson, ted cruz, all these people were targeted by the national enquirer even before this 2015, right? >> so he's he's taking the wind for the prosecution sales on that. the import of that 20 meeting and showing there was this relationship that had nothing to do with sort of a quid pro quo and pobeda is asking pecker to confirm that the concept of catch and kill was not talked about at the august 2015 meeting at trump tower. that's correct. pecker's. right. >> so this goes to the point we discussed earlier. or if you have a witness on the stand who you're crossing, who sort of a friendly witness. you don't need to go after that witness and destroy them and raise your voice and make them look like a liar. beauvais is doing a great job of just bringing out facts that undermine the government's theory and firms that trump and cohen did not pay ami any mo

says beauvais pecker says that is correct. but they said it would have made business sense to put it mildly to run such an article if it was true, correct. twitch pecker replied, yes. now, we should point out in testimony earlier this week, pecker did testify under oath that if he ran the story, it would have been after the election which makes the argument that this was to protect trump going into the election. but as soon as the election was over, pecker would have run that doorman's story because it would have been in his words, extremely popular or not his exact words. but he said it would've been extremely popular among the national enquirer audience back with the panel joining us as well as barry levine, former executive editor of the national enquirer. barry, i'm wondering, i'm a, you know, david pecker obviously. well, you worked with the enquirer for a long time. you had some involvement with that doorman's story. how do you what do you make of him as a witness? >> well, listen, i was there anderson for 17 years. i wa

is it beauvais is how the last name is pronounced? >> yeah. aiml beauvais. >> good to trump's attorneys, he's handling know. >> i asked i asked my staff, how do you pronounce emil and they told me me all but i forgot to ask about beauvais. all right. and any case just so you know what's going on right now. so the assistant mr. good job steinglass is objecting and getting into the objection. they had about bove a's line of questioning when it came to david pecker steinglass is right now arguing that bobi's questions about the fbi interview were quote improper and left the jury with a miss impression. steinglass objecting to beauvais trying to seemingly undermine the memory at the very least, if not the credibility of david pecker, which is what you would expect a defense attorney, i to do i suppose kara scannell right. >> i mean, you see this all the time in cross-examination, they tried to bring up notes from an fbi interview or from grand jury testimony, and then try to challenge the memory as you say, of the witness, and show them what are i

>> i did beauvais then goes on to ask him so before the august 2015 meeting, you made a decision that it made sense for ami to run articles about bill and hillary clinton, right? yes. and those articles were negative, right? yes. so it was easy for you to say during the august 2015 meeting that you would continue to do that, right? >> yes. that was no issue for you? >> no. >> so that's that piece of testimony. there's another piece of testimony that also stood out similarly about these negative articles, national enquirer was running related to gop rivals of donald trump. >> emile beauvais asking more questions of david pecker on the cross. >> now, you testified on tuesday that during this august 2015 meeting, there was also so a about running negative articles about president trump's opponents, right? that's correct. >> and you testified that there was discussion of that topic during the august 2015 meeting. do you remember that yes. and three specific opponents, preliminary opponents came up, right? yes. ben carson, correct? >> yes. marco rubio, right? >> right. and ted cruz correct

beauvais says, you can't reconcile because what you said yesterday is inconsistent with what's in this report, correct? pecker says yes, but i wouldn't be responsible for this report, they said i stand and so you're suggesting that the fbi made a mistake here. pecker said, i know what the truth is. i'm not i can't state what the woods here why this was written this way. i know exactly what was said to me. >> so interested, i don't think the defense donald trump's defense did much to impact david pecker's credibility. that's a small dang right there, but they did something better. they are using david pecker's testimony to undermine michael cohen, the three best words that the defense has on the record four so far came today, prone to exaggeration. they got david pecker to say michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and so they're going to do that by the way, with a lot of other witnesses. if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough g

pecker says, yes, beauvais& that included celebrities, right? pecker? yes. and most celebrities wanted positive treatment. all public occasions, right? pecker. they do. and you had a relationship like this with other politicians, correct? pecker says, yes. and you are aware that many politicians work with immediate and tried to promote their image, right? pecker says, yes, and promote their brand pecker says yes to facilitate their campaign, correct? pecker says yes standard operating procedure, as you understand it? correct? david pecker says yes. and in fact, in another place and david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david becker says, that's correct. i thought but that was a very skillful cross-examining and good read write and even, even better you should have taken that law school. >> but anyway but isn't the answer. so what ultimately you know, he he covered up for other cele

about aet trut the at 2015 meeting at trump tower. >> that's correct, because beauvais is doinsaid.g great jot of just bringing out facts that underminee. the government'sn theory. >> confirms that trump yat truen did not pay amy an in connection with the story from a former doorman at trump tower. you >> hmm. well, got interrupt when you know what and where it's going. >> well, they are getting nervous.to b >> the lawfare being waged against trump seems to be an. lly backfire >> and so disappointed commentators who kind of beton the farm on this are just left sputtering. th then this was really great this morning, offering nastyt bi jabs after trump sweet birthdayg greetings to.birthd >>ay one thing i want to pointue out, the first thing he did was wish his wife a happy birthday and said he wished he could be with her. she could be there. any number of his family members could be there at this trial, at point. >> they've all chosen not to ben at this trial. they've chosen notto to be. really, john. really? cas that's as good as you can do. now. it's bad enough for trump to wast ding

and then the other thing, beauvais was trying to establish was were these deals that were also just in the interest of the national enquirer in the usual sense that they would have sold pulled issues and that was the main objective of these transactions. here's the thing. david pecker has come off extremely well for prosecutors in this case so far. he's been very composed. he has a avuncular manner during this case so far and he has repeatedly saying the main point, which is the one you highlighted, which is in the face of all of this, he's saying no, this was not the normal course of business even if they were on the margins ways in which it might have benefited the enquirer in the usual sense, there was this other objective here to subvert the election. >> yeah. and pecker acknowledging that the story that he helped kill, that he paid $150,000 to kill one of the stories you help break karen mcdougal google's silence being bought for $150,000. that would have been and i forget if i don't know if it was the prosecution or mr. packer, but tabloid gold was the term that was used because

he reached for him and then beauvais sat next to him, and then he was very animated, a very directed and very much who felt, oh, that's what they're talking thinking about when they say this guy kind of rules the room when he's there you felt that energy from him i mean, honestly, he's been practically comatose for the last week and a half, right. >> everything you've described so many times when he's there i looked at his eyes close the listening, but yeah, yeah. like this. well, he's he's coming to life now and it's because this man is one of his oldest friends and they're really made a lot of mischief together so well, that's a maintenance. >> so you finally got this and this is today under cross-examination all right. so how would you how would you characterize his demeanor? i mean, i can see the intensity here could you tell the emotion as to whether it was frustration or anger or was it hard to discern it was walking in line a little bit because pecker was in the room to not the judge or the jury, but pecker was looking at him, wanting to make eye contact with him and donald lo

trump's attorney, emil beauvais, used his time cross-examining pecker to show how the mutually ben relationship between him and trump went back almost two decades before the 2016 election. he confirmed with pecker that he had been giving trump a heads-up about negative stories during that time, bove as pecker if it was standard operating procedure for media to work with politicians, including sometimes to win elections pecker replied, yes. >> today was breathtaking. this room. he went on, he was breathtaking and amazing testimony. before court, trump commented on pecker's testimony at a stop at a midtown construction site. prosecutors cited his words to the judge on thursday as one of many violations of his gag order not to discuss witnesses in the case. >> how are you a lot of david testimony so far been very nice and he's been david been very nice and nice guy now the judge has set a hearing for wednesday to hear additional arguments over whether donald trump did violate that gag order tomorrow. >> david pecker will be back on the stand. trump's lawyers will continue to cross-examine him. tha

if the false door man allegations had been true, he would have run the story after the election beauvais elicited from pecker that catch and kill. the term catch and kill buying a story in order to not run it so that it doesn't run anywhere else to protect mr. trump in this case, allegedly, tkatchenko was not discussed at the august 2015 meeting? the defense elicited from packer that he wanted nothing to do with the stormy daniels allegations and the defense made sure to spell out for the jurors that the karen mcdougal deal was reviewed by an election law attorney, jim. do any of these standout to you as important? bits of information for the defense of donald trump for the defense, i would say, you know, in hopefully you set this up an opening statement, but you need to just kinda pound home that were not fighting every single fact that moves in this case, we're not fighting whether or not i wouldn't be fighting the relationships doesn't matter. it's no more than the doorman which was demonstrably false. you still pay money in nuisance suits. two people that probably don't deserve that

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