with congressman becerra. something which has emerged only in the last two day i think extends and deepens the concern about benghazi and about the whole question of secretary clinton as secretary of state. as you know, the group boko haram in nigeria is an islamist extremist group. they're fanatics, very dangerous. have killed several thousand people. now they have kidnapped some 300 girls. have released some of the 300. but it turns out, this is surprising to everybody, that while secretary clinton was at the secretary of state, they turned down designating this group as a terrorist group. it was only when john kerry came in it was designated. don't you think in terms of legitimate questions by the congress that finding out why was this group not designated, asking questions about how the decision was made is actually a legitimate function of legislative oversight? >> well, first i want to thank our government and the president for doing everything possible to work with the nigerian government to try to reco

becerra.i can't launch a investigation because they won't cooperate. >> do you see this as a trial and do you see the white house as the defense? >> no. first of all, happy mother's day you to and mr. becerra. trials are criminal and civil for 16 years i spoke in trial metaphors and perhaps i need to get out of that habit. what i simply ment is when you ask me how long something's going to last, i need to know how cooperative the other side is going to be so to the extent that i said any indication to anyone that i view someone as the defense, what i ment by that is if you can tell me how cooperative the other side is going to be, i can give you a better idea of how long something's going to last. >> congressman becerra, you've been talking about the committee as a kangaroo court, your words. how do you know that before it even begins meeting and do you really believe that all the questions about benghazi have been answered? >> well, we believe it could be a kangaroo court or a smoke screen fr

becerra. >> mr. barthold, thank you for the description you can eat so much of this was that over 10 years? >> mr. becerra, the estimated revenue loss from th more than $140 million in donations with $4500. social service providers, cultural institutions and schools that benefit communities and improve lives. when we look at which taxpayers to take advantage it doesn't tell the full story about a charitable contribution like this does. again if this is extended for two years, it would be a budget window. so we have an effect over time made this policy permanent by continual extensions. i think as mr. blumenauer pointed out, it is important to note when there is a gap as there has been on this terrible policy of tax initiatives, you can't make it up and we can't go back and necessarily have people participate you otherwise wouldn't. are there any further questions? two yards? >> i really don't think it is fair for the american taxpayers should be talking about a bill which would be costing $2.8 billio

becerra: i thank the gentleman for yielding. today's vote on h.r. 4438 and on five other republican bills to come that would permanently -- permanently extend other tax breaks without paying for them will increase the deficit by $310 billion. it would read to republican cuts to -- it would lead to republican cuts in services like medicare, research and school funding. how much is $310 billion? that's five times what we spend on services to our veterans. we have over 21 million americans who have served in uniform who are veterans of the country. that $310 billion is tree times what we as a federal government invest in education, job training and social services for an entire year. and it's over 10 times what we spend annually on medical restorgee come up with the innovation and the life-saving treatment this is a americans rely upon. we hear frour colleagues on the republican side that they are fiscally responsible, that they are fiscal hawks and they pass these severe budget this is a would cut school, that would cut medical re

. >> first of all, thank you, becerra for over stating my career as a prosecutor.don't have access to intelligence or sources and methods and i have never interviewed susan rice about anything or ask any questions about the leadup to benghazi and why we were still there. one of the problems with the existing committee structure is they are frag minutessed. -- fragmented. that is why i asked for a select committee a year ago to tear down the barriers and have access to all of the information. we are not so fragmented according to which committee we are on. >> i have another question, the biggest question, whether democrats will participate in the process? minority leader nancy pelosi was making some demands this week. we will put them on the screen: democrats must sign off on subpoenas. they must be allowed to participate in witness interviews and republicans must not selectively release testimony. congressman, are you saying that if you get satisfactory answers to those, the democrats the participate? and if you don't, that you won't? >> we have participated in all

>> well, jon, i tell you, you listen to representative javier becerra this weekend also on "fox news sunday" and there seems to be growing momentum for democrats to take part in this committee. there is always a couch to that answer though, if it is a fair exercise and, as we said, the seven republicans who were appointed by speaker boehner, meeping that there would be five slots for democrats. you heard nancy pelosi saying she wanted it to be even. that was not in the cards, since republicans obviously control the house and have the majority. so it is still a open question but it seems just talking to people on capitol hill that democrats will take part in this committee after they get back from this recess. jon: i guess one of the issues is deciding whether or not democrats will be allowed to sign off on subpoenas, meaning, if, if, they will have the power to block subpoenaing certain witnesses. trey gowdy has said, if they can block us from calling witnesses, no point in having them on the panel or at least reduces the utility of having them on the panel. any indication how that g

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javier becerra. let me ask first. what happened to the democratic caucus? leader pelosi did not disguise her ambivalence about participation on this committee. what was discussion among democrats? >> we kept asking the speaker to guarantee that this was going to be a serious investigation that we were going to just try to go back and do what seven other investigations did to try to uncover anything that maybe had not been discovered but we couldn't get the guarantees and we kept trying to get the guarantees that it would be a fair and opened and balanced prosets and we got none of those guarantees and it became very clear especially given all the 23u67bd raising and the campaign contributions that are being raised off of this ben gentleman city investigation that it was turning into something different. so i believe that many democrats did not want to let this become -- not just a circus but something that would be very similar to what we saw during the mccarthy era where it turned ugly and no one wants to see the influence of very important democratic inst

theead of calling it becerra program, it is called illegal migration.t is still just as necessary to the economy of the southwest and still encouraged by all different sectors, but the discrimination against these workers is now justified by this introduction of this new terminology and status of the legality -- illegality. >> and your point is once this new illegality for mexican immigration begins post-1965, that then begins to criminalization of mexicans as migrants. and you draw the parallel in your book with michelle alexander's book on mass incarceration and how the rationalization that occurs -- she calls it in her book "the new jim crow: mass incarceration in the age of colorblindness." >> i think we have become blind in this country to the ways in which we have managed to reinvent a cast like system here in the united states, one that asctions in a manner that is oppressive in many respects as the one that existed in south africa under apartheid and existed under jim crow here in the united states, although, our rules and laws are now officiall

>> jorge, los "mexicanos 000", como me dirÍa polo becerra, este chef de origen mexicano que ahora estorias maravillosas, entre ellas me llama la atenciÓn una, si recuerdo bien se llama marÍa gaeta, que empezÓ en este paÍs viviendo en un garaje con siete adultos, dos niÑos y ella estaba embarazada. ¿crees que las mujeres mexicanas la tienen mÁs difÍcil aquÍ en los estados unidos? >> pues el testimonio de las mujeres que estÁn en este libro, marÍa gaeta, a la que tÚ seÑalas, originaria de zacatecas, que ella dice "usÉ zapatos hasta cuando tenÍa siete aÑos de edad", y marÍa contreras, por cierto, jorge, que el presidente obama la nominÓ para dirigir el small business y ahora ha sido ratificada por el senado de los estados unidos, es parte de estas historias, y ellos cruzan tambiÉn, como te dice, la frontera, con estos sueÑos, con esta fuerza, pero tambiÉn muchas veces cruzan con ellas mitos y tabÚes. y el gran reto, jorge, de este libro, el sueÑo que uniÓ la frontera, es reconocer la prosperidad que construyen dÍa con día para los estados unidos y tambiÉn para méxico. >> una de las cosa

chairman, republican trey gowdy, tried to assure the chairman of the house democratic caucus, xavier becerra, that the investigation would be non-political and bipartisan. >> i don't run my committees the way that the democrats are fearful of. i want a process, chris, that at the end of it you are welcome to draw different conclusions from the facts. but i want everyone to say it was fair, it was exhaustive, and we know more than we did when it started. >> make it a process where we can't be excluded from the interview of witnesses, where we can't be excluded when a decision is made to subpoena a witness. make it so that we're all in the room when we're reviewing the documents that are supposed to be evidence. what we don't want to be is excluded. we don't want the american public to be shut out. >> how does it benefit me, javier, when i have say from day one i want this to transsent politics and i want it to inspire trust in you and our fellow citizens? >> how does it benefit him? one answer to gowdy's question is if the democrats don't participate in the investigations the republicans will

betweennversation democrat xavier becerra and trey gowdy. thoughts is morning on the investigation. maxine, what do you think? it is all about hillary, and it is old, greta, it is old. democrats are way better than republicans because george bush and cheney should have been investigated for lying and all his lies and money spent over there. disabled people right now. the republicans have lost the latino/hispanic vote just like they have lost double act vote. the highest court we have is not going to save them. keep bringing up benghazi because you have nothing. maxine, before you go, you said this is all about hillary linton. what you mean? guest: if she is nominated, she has my vote. it is all about hillary. who ise will go to john a democrat in memphis, tennessee. john, what are your thoughts? caller: i watch c-span every morning, and i hear all this vitriol, especially coming from the south. i am from memphis. we are a blue county. in a red state. i hear nothing but racist vitriol. it is nothing basin any kind of clarity. no one reads in

congress deserve to know the answer we have not been able to get to that yet bill: let me raise concerns becerrased with chris wallace do not excuse me from interviews and subpoenas and will that happen? >> they have a legitimate right to find out the same information we do and if they participate i think they will get all the information that we'll have as well bill: calls it a partisan witch-hunt already it hasn't even begun just yet and you guys are trying to make hillary clinton look bad and how do you react to that? >> look the facts of hillary we have enough to run against her in 2015 this is not about hillary looking bad we believe if you're willing to raise to right hand to swear, protect and defend the constitution in the united states you deserve answers from congress if you lose your life with a youtube video question that happened i think it keeps ends death of four americans this was youtube, wasn't necessarily the result of a terrorist attack and few days later they change their story we find out they knew all along this is big deal and we have to have an answer too bill: one more