with me today is father john becher. bottcher, i just learned how to pronounce it. you have a fantastic resume. you have more abbreviations after your name than most people have. he is not only a scholar of the bible but a physicist and experimental scientist. so what seeing here is ba in physics from uc berkeley, from the school of theology, and an essenia of sacred teology from the university in rome and a doctorate of theology from the same institution. you began with a ba in physics in caland worked in the semi conductor industry in paolo alto and i think that was when you experienced a conversion to catholicism. can you tell us about that? >> it happened in the last year of the study of berkeley. i studied physics there with an idea of working with semi conductors and that sort of thing. so i had statistics classes and so on with the interpretation of data. and i went hitchhiking and i had been raised catholic and then drifted off in high school. so six years later, i went out hitchhiking out of berkeley, like i did for recreation, just put up my thumb. and thr