you know, the other thing that ann mentioned was the bechtel test which looks at are there women in theilm, do they talk to each other, do they talk to each other about something other than a man? a lot of films actually fail this test which is indicative of male centered stories and male centered protagonists. >> okay, if i could just jump in. >> let me jump in then you can, michael. listen, in normal life i hear women talking about a lot of things but most of the time they're talking about men and that may sound sexist but they do in real life. why wouldn't they in movie. >> to the exclusion of all else i have many conversations with many women and men and amazesly we talk about a wide variety of things but if you look at the dialogue that -- in these movies the bechtel test you will generally see that men are talking not only about their relationships and their romantic dreams, but also about, you know, how to blow up the asteroid or -- >> all right. >> or whatever it is. i want to know why do women -- >> general point that there is a disproportionate emphasis in the culture on how m