and the world bank not to the country but to the engineering firms like halliburton and bechtel in john perkins broke the company was called main but they're gone and so these indigenous people in these third board countries would be left holding the bag on a huge debt that could never be repaid because it was never meant to be repaid it was always a scam so when we could make their payment the you know that the i.m.f. and world bank would say you know and you know it's a lot of money but i think we can work something out you need to vote with us on the next un resolution or maybe you have to privatized your lumber industry and sell it to my buddy or allow us to build a military base once i read that the pieces sort of all came together and i realized. the these institutions that are out there united nations i.m.f. world bank council on foreign relations they're talking about how they're helping humanity they're the problem they're the worst and they're the reason why we have these gigantic problems so it it woke me up to bat it was a gradual thing starting with nine eleven it sort of b