beck and i will shoot it out.t's >> bill: personal story segment tonight, some political observers believe that attorney general eric holder is not long for his job. as you may know mr. holder has taken a huge hit promoting civilian trials for people like khalid sheikh mohammed. rather than being milk toast about the war on terror in general. yesterday eric holder was drilled by the house judiciary committee especially about his avoidance of the islamic terror description. >> do you feel that these individuals might have been incited to take the actions that they did because of radical islam? >> because of? >> radical islam. >> i mean we are in the process now of talking to mr. shahzad to try to understand what it is that drove him to take the action. >> but radical islam could have been one of the reasons? >> a variety of reasons. >> was radical islam one of them. >> there are a variety of reasons why people do these things. some of them are potentially religious. >> all i'm asking is if you think among those var

at your beck and call seeing. been praised far left loons because of beck's stand on miranda rights. issues pretty clear. i believe the public safety exception, that is when a terrorist act is underway a suspect is denied miranda rights so a can get more information. that is the law of the land. beck says no miranda must be applied upon arrest to american citizens. we debated it last night. beck, you are in big trouble now. >> i am. >> bill: far left liking you. liking you. let me roll this clip. go. >> roll tape of someone being far more reasonable about suspect being read suspect rights. >> he has all the rights under the constitution. again, it's not a popular answer but i don't think we shred the constitution. >> steve: right. >> that was early in the morning. i didn't even think about it i mean, i didn't even know what was going on. i couldn't believe that is even a possibility. citizen. >> bill: this is where if you believe that these terrorists should be read their miranda rights right away. i think you are

we have created bill buckley for glen beck, irvin crystal for and coulter. >> there's a lot of truth to that diagnosis. conservatism has always been an elite intellectual movement, and popular movement. it became popular beginning in the 1916s with the election of ronald reagan and the aftermath of that. bill buckley himself was famous for saying he would rather be gathered by the first two hundred thousand names in the boston telephone directories and the faculty of harvard university. that was not on his part and undiscriminating populism. in those circumstances in the 1950s and 60s and still true today there is more common sense and more good sense in the people than there are in the intellectual elites or academic version of the intellectual elite. >> if you would like to dialing you can. 202-585-3885. if you live in the east central time zones, 585-3886. if you live in the mountains or pacific time zone. go ahead and dial in. you have a flavor of what professor kessler talks about. it is about patrick's book the conservative ideas and personalities through all-american history.

glenn beck, you know -- he's got serious problems that i'm not equipped to diagnose. i don't really know what he thinks. he's really a puzzle to me. but they clearly -- they're getting wealthy off betting against this president, riling people up, making people think this president is making us less safer, rather than more safer. again, as senator leahy said, they have foiled many plots. but, you know, they can't ever give him credit for anything. they never will. and it's just up to the rest of us to call them out on it and focus the country on the things that matter, which is, you know, we're fighting this, we're never going to be completely safe. but they are apparently doing a very good job to this point. >> joan walsh, editor and chief, salon.com. thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks, ed. >> coming up, the whack owes across the street are playing dirty politics when it comes to the gulf oil disaster. i'm taking on caribou barbie at the bottom of the hour. and it's going to be easy, too. >>> and the rightees are making headway. you won't believe how many america

beck. and mr. elmer danenberger retired in january as the chief of regulatory programs for the minerals management service. if those two gentlemen would come forward -- because of the gravity of this hearing we have as that all witnesses testify under oath so i would ask that if each of you would stand please and raise your right hand -- do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to get to this senate committee on energy and natural resources should be the whole truth and nothing but the truth? thank you and please be seated. let me mention a couple of housekeeping matters. first of all, your written statement will be made part of the record. we would ask you to take six or eight minutes to summarize the main points that you think we need to understand from what you have developed testimony. depending on the number of senators who come to ask questions, we may want to have only one round of questions. this is a so we can also hear from the second panel before we have to adjourn

that is what sarah palin's and glenn beck -- sarah palin and glenn beck do. they proliferate. using more newscasters doing that. -- you see more newscasters doing that. they are on their sunday show, but they are tweeting 24/7. you have to do that if you're going to reach audiences. >> i would like to follow-up on that a little bit. you mentioned that in a future election, maybe not the 2010 election, maybe 2012, there will be a lot of people who will be getting their information exclusively from social networking technology. that is all little bit hard for me to swallow. -- a little bit hard for me to swallow. there is an information gap between people who do not have access. is it possible we could be making decisions in this country and in others on the basis of only those who have access to the fast-moving, portable technology, and that people who are writing the dinosaur -- riding the dinosaur are going to be left out of the political process? >> no. if you are a political campaign, u know there are people you are never going to reach digitally. you have to go to their do

somebody like john mccain and somebody the new right, the new libertarian right in the form of glenn beck, does that split map with that old grudge against miranda rights in the conservative movement? >> yeah, i think so. this is interestingly knotted ideological space. i do think one of the things you have seen is the influence of this libertarian streak, particularly the campaign of ron paul has sufficient fused the tea party movement and the right but only the parts of the argument with the state's use of economic power. all the critiques he makes of american imperial impl have been jetsonned because the neo conservatives control the foreign policy apparatus. the question is whether that can be pried apart. there have been increasing concerns in conservatives i follow and read about encroachments of the state in these kind of civil liberty situations. there is a potential for a fissure there. i don't think it is developed. >> chris, this proposal by lieberman to strip citizenship on the basis of affiliations with bad people. is this the sort of thing that joe lieberman might sort of ru

like this, and libertarian conservatives in that we are seeing people that i think most notably glenn beckday, a host on fox news channel saying it is important that these suspects are read their miranda rights. we can't shred the constitution just because it is inconvenient. to see a split between somebody like john mccain and somebody that's sort of the new right, the new libertarian right in the form of glenn beck, does that split map with that old grudge against miranda rights in the conservative movement? >> yeah, i think so. this is interestingly knotted ideological space. i do think one of the things you have seen is the influence of this kind of libertarian streak, particularly the campaign of ron paul and his views, have sort of fused the tea party movement and the right but only the parts of the argument that have to do with the states' use of economic power. all the critiques he makes of american imperialism abroad and other issues at home have been jettisoned because the neo conservatives control the foreign policy apparatus. the question is whether that can be pried apart. i d

sort of -- pretty far right, but hannity, i think beck is pulling them all further over.draws good money out of circulation, they're driving good ideas out of circulation, by going so far right that party. >> this is why michael steele made an enormous mistake early in his term when he backed down. and began to cow tow him. you have to stand up for what you believe in at all times. you may not always believe what the rest of the american people believe, but you have to stand your ground. this stuff is not only going to hurt your country, but it's going to destroy the republican party. who's going to vote for this stuff? there's going to be some, there's a lot of anger out there. the country is not going to be taken over by a far right conspiracy theorist, if it is, the country's in deep trouble. >> you're a democrat, a progressive. it seems to me, if something screws up under the government, the republicans can say, we told you government sucks, we told you was going to screw up. democrats have a stake, though, they're the government party, because they believe in what ef

i think beck is pulling them all further over and then pulling the republican party with them.ke grash ham's law, bad money turns good money out of circulation. they're driving good ideas out of circulation by going so far right, that party. >> this is why michael steel made an enormous mistake early in his term as chairman of the republican party when he backed down to rush limbaugh and began to cow to you him. you've got to stand up what you believe in. you may not always believe what the rest of the american people believe, but you've got to stand your ground. this stuff is not only going to hurt hurt the country, it's going to destroy the republican party. because who is going to vote for this kind of stuff? there will be some, because there is a lot of anger out there, but the fact of the matter is, the country is not going to be taken over by a far right conspiracy theorist, i don't think. and if it is, lord knows the country is in trouble. >> let me ask you about the stakes. up the government when republicans are charge, they can say we told you government sucks, we told

and sean hannity, i think beck is pulling them all further over and pulling the republican over.m's law, bad money drives good money out of circulation. they are driving good ideas out of circulation going so far right. >> this is why michael steele made an enormous mistake as chairman of the republican party when he backed down to rush limbaugh. he began to kowtow. you may not believe what the rest of the american people believe, but you have to stand your ground. this stuff is not only going to hurt the country but it is going to destroy the republican party. who is going to vote for this stuff? there will be some because there is a lot of anger, but the country is not going to be taken over by a far right conspiracy theorist and if it is the country is in trouble. >> you are a democrat, a progressive. if something screws up under the government with the democrats in charge they can say i told you government sucks. democrats have a stake, they believe in progressive policies. it seems to me a higher standard. is the president meeting it? >> i think he is. senator session, very

cial repo" now back to glenn beck. ♪ ♪ >> glenn: last weekend i was in new jersey and speaking in frontoup and there were several pastors in the audience. about 1,000 people there. i started to talk about the guy we're talking about tonight, george whitefield. and i started to talking, telling the story about who this guy was and what he taught the american people. when i finished, an african-american pastor, evangelical got up and he was going to say the closing prayer. he got up and he looked at me and he said, "i am never going to preach the same again. i know exactly what i'm supposed to be doing now. it all make sense to m me." i think george whitefield is a man for today. he's complicated and controversial. we'll get to his views on slavery, which were bizarre, but a man of his time, i guess. he was a man years before the revolution, was teaching colonists they could have a relationship with god, they could stand up to authority, he's the man that laid the groundwork for the revolution. he's the guy who taught america stand up for yourself as an individual. whitefield. if there wa

beck's the bill as amended is passed. >> in washington, senate passage of the financial reform bill has to be combined with a similar version passed by the house. some critics fear the bill will stifle investment. >> the bill unnecessarily restrict credit and will make our country less competitive. >> some say it does not go far enough. >> it is almost as if congress decided it did not want to actually make any choices and just left it to the regulators to fill in all the blanks. >> as president obama or in the fuel standards for heavy vehicles, he promised a greener economy is a stronger economy. >> the nation that believes in the -- that leads in the clean energy economy will lead in the global economy. i want america to be that nation. >> lingering reminders that the u.s. economy is still idling along. in washington, brian moore, wbal-tv 11 news. >> still ahead, it is often called the silent killer of women, but tonight there is a breakthrough. >> doctors said they have discovered a promising new strategy to detect ovarian cancer earlier than ever. that is coming up in tonight's "med

this very year we've heard glenn beck kind of resurrecting coolidge's philosophy and persona. and on his tv and at cpac. so i think the timing might be right for a coolidge boom. people are looking at this. and as i quoted him quoting the founding fathers we see a lot of similarities in that philosophy. and we are seeing so much interest in the founding fathers where this might carry over. and we have in coolidge a distillation of that philosophy which is so pure and in implementing it so effective -- you know, one of the ways i was going to start this speech, then i said, no, no, you know, politicians stand up in front of you every time they want to be elected and they say, well, you know, i'm going to cut spending and i'm going to balance the budget. and i'm going to reduce the debt. and i'm going to cut out all the waste in government. and they never do it. they never do it. calvin coolidge did it and then we say he didn't accomplish anything. he spent four years and he never did a damn thing and he did what every politician promises to do. so that is not too bad an act to

he thought colonel beck who was a machiavellian figure was just the kind of guy he would deal with. i think if the polls had -- poll and promote country, but that was a suicidal course of conduct. sitting there between hitler and stalin, and the poles had defeated linens and trotsky. and you have to choose. off a i were the poles i think the best that would've been take hitler's deal, let him have his nazi city, little city of danzig back, and hitler was prepared to give him a slice of other land in return for it. and you say, you're going to have to make that deal or go to war with him. it's your call. that's where the brits and the french, why would they declare war on hitler? why would hitler go west? what exactly did he wanted in france? he had written off that, you got it. and even the northern part, he didn't grab that from denmark and these were territories taken from germany. >> host: in august 2008, when pat buchanan published this book, "churchill, hitler and the unnecessary war," booktv went out to mr. buchanan's house and into the gym for about an hour regarding this boo

glenn beck does. they've become media conglomerates. they've got their books, they've got their tv interviews. they've got their websites. and i think -- and you see more and more newscasters doing that. where, you know, whether it's david gregory or -- they're on their sunday show but they're tweeting 24/7, okay? and that's what you have to do. >> i'm going to follow up on that just briefly. and i would like to ask -- whoever wants to answer. david, you mentioned in your opening remark that in a future election, maybe not the 2010 election, maybe 2012 or 2016, there will be a lot of people for whom the exclusive source of information about the campaign will be coming from these kinds of -- what we're calling social networking technologies. that's a little hard for me to swallow. and steve mentioned the information divide. the gap when people don't have access to this. is it possible that we could be making decisions in this country and perhaps in others as well on the basis of only those who have access to the fast-moving portable tech

that is what sarah palin's and glenn beck -- sarah palin and glenn beck do. they proliferate.sing more newscasters doing that. -- you see more newscasters doing that. they are on their sunday show, but they are tweeting 24/7. you he to do that if you're going to reach audiences. >> i would like to follow-up on that a little bit. you mentioned that in a future election, maybe not the 2010 election, maybe 2012, there will be a lot of people who will be getting their information exclusively from social networking technology. that is all little bit hard for me to swallow. -- a little bit hard for me to swallow. there is an information gap betweepeople who do not have access. is it possible we could be making decisions in this country and in others on the basis of only those who have access to the fast-moving, portable technology, and that people who are writing the dinosaur -- riding the dinosaur are going to be left out of the political process? >> no. if you are a political campaign, you know there are people you are never going to reach digitally. you have to go to their doorst

beck, in your testimony you said it was operated by hydraulic pressure and that applying hydraulic pressure at a water depth of 5,000 feet can be a complicated task and is an engineering marvel in itself. what is the difference how they are installed and more importantly tested as well as operated at deep water levels. do you believe they are less reliable in deep water than shallow water? what is the testing for that? >> senator, as i said in my introduction. i do not portray myself as a deep water drilling expert. the issues, i have not dealt with in my career so i would decline to speak about specifics that are going on in the testing and the installation of those. there are much better experts than me. >> are they tested at those levels? >> repeatedly on 14-day intervals. >> at 5,000 feet? >> on the sea floor i believe but once again i'm stretching out of my expertise. it is a very difficult task to retrieve it off of the sea floor. maintenance and testing work should be done. >> right. but you don't know that it is. >> i don't know the specifics of how that is accomplished. >> i think

host: another comment from jean whoeds saying the guy that called in preaching the beck handty commentsalex is joining us from new jersey. independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. just i would like to say that i'm definitely going to vote for someone from the party. i am going to vote for republican just to get him out of office. i think you need to turn congress and senate as fast as possible to have fresh people in there. obviously, collectively they always fail. two issues. one is fiscal issues. they're leaving or living far beyond they're means and that's bad thing. we're eventually going to be in the same trouble europe is in. the second problem is immigration. if there's not comprehensive imcongratulations reform. we, most of the people living in united states and i'm actually a legal immigrant believe they have to lock the border and seal the government down and then we can talk about the immigration reform. host: by the way. tuesday night with the results coming in especially in those closely watched races in kentucky, pennsylvania and arkansas. we'll have speeches

guest: beck -- caller: vector. go to the bailout fund with the bankers. the biggest welfare recipients in this country. shame on the people. they are just taking their anger out on the poor people that need help. these payments that were made to the bankers in this country, we need to be addressing that situation instead of picking omni poor people. host: some -- something for each of you there. guest: with respect to the bankers, the banks pay back most of that money. but i agree with you. it is not always in the government is restricted to aid to the poor, but on the other hand there is a lot that is wasteful in the sense that it gives assistance and free cash, free food, free medical care and housing and it does not require anything back. that is not helping the recipient in long-term and it certainly does not help the taxpayer. we are not on a sustainable course. we cannot afford to borrow from the chinese to spend $12 trillion on the growing welfare state over the next decade. host: back to the ground roots? guest of the welfare system has a very dif

that it wouldn't continue and i don't know why we listen to people like rush limbaugh and palin and beck who make millions of dollars dividing this country and that's what i have to say. and thank you for your service there, sir. and we appreciate it. host: guest: thank you. host: is your organization one that is sort of organizing and massing volunteers to go out there and help mop up clean up or protect some of these delicate marshes et cetera? guest: we have on our website that we put together for this is bp drilling disaster.org. there is a button you can volunteer. but unfortunately, the way this horrific scenario is unfolding is there is not a lot of things for volunteers to do. what we do know is contractors that are paid for by bp are the folks who are the front lines cleaning up this oil. and that's the way it has to be. people need to be trained, have proper hazardous material training. and they also clearly need to have the proper protection to be out in this toxic stew. i don't think bp is doing that effectively right now but that's their charge. and when it comes to cleaning

why do we have to drive by modern hospitals becks why can we not just go to our local hospital -- hospitals? why can we not just go to our local hospital? guest: i used to think that. why not give all veterans of vouchers. there are people that look at it that way. it is certainly true that the need to get more facilities in florida, particularly, and throughout the sun belt, and generally. we have a shortage, mostly because we had a lot of veterans move there in the last 20 or 30 years. we have an abundance of facilities in boston. orlando is now just getting his first facility. las vegas is just getting its first facility. i hear you. i know the problems there are in florida. i want to give you a thought that those hospitals that you are driving by, and the way -- on the way to the va, we know that statistically, they are more dangerous. one-third of all the money did they spend it is for over- treatment. you may found that it is -- you may find that it is worth the trip to drive by these seemingly prestigious hospitals. more and more, when we look closely at what they are doing, there is

[applause] >> it is taken the lessons learned here, again at our beck, to the most challenged schoolis is a class as work to rebuild haiti, support military veterans, collect surplus supplies for those without, and safeguard our natural environment. four of the five graduates have taken part in community service. some of you today are wearing red cords that recognize the depth of your engagement. michigan students have stepped forward to give more than 35,000 days of service in one year. [applause] >> mr. president, this has placed the university of michigan on the president's higher education on a roll with distinction, but we can, and we will do more and we pledge to increase our numbers. graduates, your community service is praise-worthy and important, and it should also be unrelenting. civic engagement is the foundation of a vibrant, prosperous society. more than ever, as our neighborhoods and communities work through this economic downturn, your contributions matter. it was once said that "i am only one, but i am one. i cannot do everything, but i can do something. i will not le

that it wouldn't continue and i don know why we listen to people like rush limbaugh and palin and beck who make millions of dollars dividing this country and that's what i have to say. and thank you for your service there, sir. anwe appreciate it. host: guest: thank you. host: is your organization one that is sort of organizing and massing volunteers to go out there and help mop u clean up or protect some of these delicate marshes et cetera? guest: we have on our website that we put together for this is bp drilling disaster.org. there is a button you can volunteer. but unfortunately, the way this horrific scenario is unfolding is there is not a lot of things for volunteers to do. what we do know is contractors that are paid for by bp are the folks who are the front lines cleaning up this oil. and that the way it has to be. people need to be trained, have proper hazardous material training. and they also clearly need to have the proper protection to be out in this toxic stew. i don't think bp is doing that effectively right now but that's their charge. and when it comes to cleaning up t

but i also find it troubling that glenn beck becoming our advocate. he's our support. [laughter] >> you know, nobody nobody -- he misread us completely. that's nothing new. not the first time, won't be the last time. but ironically, he's right. he's right what he says. it's hard to do this. don't these people know that there is no comparison? and there are no other voices and that is very -- almost almost -- the only ones out there. everybody in this panel agrees. but, you know, nobody comes out there and says what are you doing? we saw is it in health care. we're seeing it now in immigration. and so the only reasons i see is ignorance or lack of memory and in some instances, it's insensitivity and it's because of bias. but most of it is just who cares? you know? >> abe, i mean you think you raise obviously a very important incentive point. and that issue of holocaust imagery, nazi imagery, in most instances is inappropriate. let me offer a different take. i know mahoney from los angeles. he's a caring, enlighted, but deeply religious individual who is very troubled ab