and he said if you talked to the individual commanders, the ranger commander, charlie beckwith of delta force, the marine pilots that flew the helicopters, the c-130 pilots, anybody involved with it, each of them would say we can do our job. we are fully confident that we can succeed in our job. talking to this lieutenant general who was in daily contact with all five members of the joint chiefs and with the major general who was the overall mission commander, he said nobody had any confidence that it was going to succeed. it was so complex, so complicated that every minuscule part had to fall just right into place at each perfect time. and he said nobody at that level really had much confidence in it. i don't know whether they communicated that to the president. i know the president was under a great deal of dress -- of stress to do something. he had just lost the new york primary to teddy kennedy. he was up for re-election. so that's, that's that. yes, sir. >> [inaudible] >> wait for the microphone, please. >> [inaudible] >> anybody got a microphone handy? somebody got one in your poc