that brings an irish voice to the immigration reform bedate. as other speakers here, the irish are in real terms a minority in this debate. there are approximately 50,000 undocumented irish throughout the united states. but we are a very vocal minority, and i thought i would share with you some of the things that has worked for us in lobbying on this issue. and to my colleagues who are here tonight on their issues, there is no substitute for direct lobbying of officials on this. do not leave it to the mayor or even this commission tonight to lobby on your behalf. take it up and go after it yourselves. one of the wolf things about american politics, whether you are legal, illegal, in status or out of status, you can walk through the doors of federal government, and knock on those doors, and find someone to talk to, and if you try hard enough, you will get to the cossak person or senate person sooner or later. we have brought on several occasion 2,000 irish undocumented to washington, d.c., held a holiday on the hill, and marched through the corr

sunday continues its one on one interviews, is the guest this morning there is the big payroll tax bedate, chris wallace is the host and joins us with a preview. >> good morning chris. >> reporter: good morning melanie. >> what did you think last night? >> reporter: it was interesting there were things said but i guess that is what everybody will remember when mitt romney turned to rick perry and said you want to bet $10,000 on it, the way i might bet $5 that is my first question to rick perry what did you thing when romney said do you want to bet $10,000. it is a little thing but will stick with people they will say gosh is this guy really in touch and does he understand us when he would rip off a $10,000 bet the way as i say we bet a quarter or a dollar. >>> absolutely it is lighting up the social media. as far as the debate goes, rick perry looks like he is getting more comfortable he said he would and learn more about the debating process he will be your guest this morning i guess he is not out yet. >> reporter: i don't think he is out of it he had a strange journey he was the front r

. >> in the bedates he's come off as the sanest person on the stage, which is saying a lot. ron paul is considered far out there. he's the one that comes across as the most sensible. he sort of seems like the most normal one. i don't think that says good things about the others. >> normal is a phrase that we should parse out here. >> mainstream. >> some of what he's saying is not going to appeal to the gop base this is a guy who said i want to cut aid to israel. he's is only person -- >> legalize drugs. >> he's the only person not taking part in the republican jewish coalition forum. >> and the trump debate. >> test normatively normal. he's republican primary normal. i do think in iowa, iowans republican. gephardt ran in '88, in 2004 you had people say i remember from 11 years ago he was weird or i liked him. ron paul finished third in iowa last time when he was outspent a ton. right now he's a stronger third than he was last time. i don't think that there is the ingredients for ron paul to get the nomination. ask hillary clinton whether you have to get the nomination to hav