if you saw on tv, by and lost -- bedeiden lost. did you heard it on the reader, you would say that biden was in control. if you saw on tv, with the that mad smile, that jack nicholson smile right to the debate, the conversation in the tyrol, remember what it did to malvo or. i think that'd deeply diminish what -- remember what it did to al gore. i think that its deeply diminished what he had to say. >> compared to president obama's performance, joe biden did an outstanding job. he was aggressive. but he smiles too much. he smiled at times when it was not necessary. but that was not the smart they came across the face of paul ryan. -- that was not the smirk that came across the face of paul ryan. i think he made the points that he needed to make. >> basically, two-person debates are far better when both people show up and they showed up. [laughter] of like a week ago when only one showed up. -- unlike a week ago when only one showed up. paul ryan played it naturally cool for his first national test. and i thought joe biden had democ