for me, my concern was the commissioners not been engaged beendr's. i think -- not being engaged with dr's. i think we still need to be engaged. ok. commissioner borden? commissioner borden: i think that people do not understand when they should speak. what happens when items close. that is the training that people do need to understand the process when you speak to -- understand the process. when you speak to an eir. the other thing that is probably underutilized as general public comments on the fact that a lot of groups do not realize it can be an opportunity if they have an issue in their neighborhood that is not on the agenda. i often tell people, come to general public comment. they often do not know where to go, how to get on the list. that is another thing that could be more instructive to used, if we let people know about it. commissioner olague: commissioner sugaya? commissioner sugaya: yes, people know that i am a big fan of the dr's, and i was perfectly willing to let it go to a hearing. i found that the planning commission in another area