in terms of beeney wong, u lash is tough because they each bring something unique. what i would say both of them before we make a decision is that anytime there is more applicants than seats, we always encourage the person who doesn't get the appointment to please continue to be involved because the fact is that seats, people come off these seats from time to time and most of the people that end up getting appointed is people who have gone through the process a number of times. the fact that you are not selected is in no way indicating that we think you are amazing, it's just a question of timing. i think either one of them would be great. to be honest for me given where the needs are in the city right now especially with the influx of undocumented youth coming in and issues around youth and because there is no south asian on the committee, i would be probably tip the scale a little bit on the side of u lash dunne lap. not because mr. wong isn't the choice, it's because of the need. i'm making a motion that we move forward debra hardy for seat 13 and dunne lap for s