i hadad him on twice befores auest. diffence, each time he would come, he would have his jacket over his sulder. one person, maybe ather aid and cell phone. that was it. when h came back as predent, oh, my god, the parking lot was tented. snipers up in the -- and you ow what they do is they come in, secret svice comes in a week before and go up to members of my staff. don't come in tomorrow. ifou had a joint in yr sock backn 1979 a you got arrested for it. they have everybody's -- like oh, my god. tavis: it is amang you got thathow off the grod. >> the funnit thing, i said to someone, got hisumber. i dialed hisumber. hello. i sai yes, barack obama? this is barra. hey, it is jay leno. i had a direct line! tavi one other story i want to ask you aut,arah palin resigning a governor of alaska. >> i don't quiteet that one. i don't -- i wan to be president s i quit m job. i don'tuite understand tt. you're governo you don't wan to be a lame duck but erybody's a lameuck. i'm still mystified by that one. i don' quite get that one