scientifical behaviors, particular sexual, aggressive and parental behavior, are extremely maintainedcross different animal species. that suggests the brain control of those behaviors is also very maintained. in contrast the signals that trigger these behaviors are usually extremely specific of a given species. for example, in the species of birds called the american flicker there is only one sign that matters to trigger gender specific behavior and that is the black mustache on the face of the male. so if you remove the black mustache from the face of the male, then the other males will attempt to copulate with the male because they will assume it is a female. if you paint a mustache on the face of a female, the other males will attack it because they will assume it is a male. i have a mustache i'm a male. i don't, i'm a female. in contrast we use a very specific set of factors called pheromones. humans are particularly sensitive to visual and auditory cues. a fact that has been exploited very much by the pornography industry. once we know the signals that trigger gender specific beh

finally, there is a third class of behavior called gender role behavior.hese other characteristics that differ on the average. some are different from others. some of the biggest ones are seen in childhood toy preferences. the next image shows the sex difference in height and we are all familiar with this. males tend to be taller than females but there is some overlap. the males are the blue and the females are the orange. the overlap would be the people that you would not know their gender by knowing their height. the next image shows these gender differences in play, play with toys like vehicles or boys toys or dolls, are similar in size to the sex different height. finally, we see the gender difference in identifying with the male gender. we can see this gender difference is even bigger and there is almost no overlap between males and females, but there are some people who are in the other distribution. these include people who want to change their gender. how does this come to be? we have talked about these sex differences in testosterone, some of whic

sex typical behaviors, particularly aggressive and parental behavior, are extremely maintained acrossrent animal species, so the brain control of those behaviors is also very maintained across animals. in contrast the signals that trigger these behaviors are usually extremely specific of a given species. for example, in the species of birds called the american flicker, there is only one sign that matters and terms of gender specific behavior. that is the black mustache on the mail. if you remove the black mustache from the meale, then the other males will attempt to copulate with the male without the mustache, because they will assume it is female. if you paid to the mustache on the female, the males will attack that mustache. if i have a mustache, i may mail -- i am a male, if i don't, i am a female. we use olfactory tools called pheromones, and humans are particularly sensitive to visual and auditory cues, a fact that has been exploited specific -- effectively. once we know the signals that trigger gender specific behavior, now we can look into the brain. how is the brain processing

behavior.contained in the presentation of male and female behavior. in females, the mail circuit is repressed by the ferret model system. -- pheromone old system. the female circuit is normally request. in the mutant we observed, what is happening is that the repression of the opposite brain -- opposite sex does not exist therefore the female now is able to display both male specific behavior and female specific behavior. similarly, the mail is able to exhibit both female and male specific behavior. >> this is so beautiful because it really provides a way we can begin thinking and exploring a transgender identity, if in fact we have the circuits of both constant behaviors, you can see how this could contribute to wanting to be another junior -- gender. this is profound. >> i think as eric mentioned, the brains of males and females are largely similar. specific hormonal and genetic regulation leads to the predominant but not exclusive display of the behavior of a given sex. this is extremely imp

and finally there is a third class of behavior called gender role behaviors. and these are all the other characteristics that differ on the average for males and females. an among these some are bigger than other . some of the biggest ones are seen in childhood toy and activity preferences. the next image showsed sex difference in height and we're all familiar with this males tend to be taller than females. but there's some overlap. so the males are the blue distribution and the females are the orange distribution. and the people where the overlap is would be people you wouldn't know their gender from knowing their height. and the next images show that these gender differences in play play with toys like vehicles or boys toys, play with toys like dolls or girl's toys are similar in size to the sex difference in height. and finally we see the gender difference in identifying with the male gender and we is see that this gender difference is even bigger and there's almost no overlap between males and females. but there are some people who are in the other distrib

is it a behavior or a crime? >> i view it as a psychologist as a behavior. one that's contingeant, as many behaviors on environmental and internal factors. we don't know nearly as much about the offender as we like but the environment that he was raised in the family was a key determinant as to how this happened and allowed to happen over time. >> let's hear more. >> the little one was like what's wrong? why is daddy and josh leaving? and as we're all leaving the next day and for days and days i was saying you know josh has done some very bad things and he's very sorry. >> i was thankful and the ray of hope was that josh had came and told us and his heart is still soft because we wouldn't have known about any of these things if he didn't tell us. and none of the victims knew about this or understood what he had done. >> as a parent did you feel guilty when you learned that his behavior had continued and others girls in the house had become victims? >> yes. as parents, you feel like a failure when one of your parents does something wrong. >> erin the victims

. >> mental health staff must determine if his behavior is a result of psychoses, drugs, or something else. >> i was like in cleveland heights, lots of girlfriends, lots of pot. sex, drugs, rock and roll. >> convicted in the 1980s for murder, another inmate has spent 24 years on death row. >> keep fighting like you've been fighting. that's all we can do is keep fighting. >> now he can leave his cell behind for good, but in this case, nothing is for certain. >> their plan is to convict me and sentence me to death again. >> reicher case 232189, state of ohio versus keenan. >>> overlooking lake erie in downtown cleveland, the cuyahoga county corrections center is an imposing 11-story structure built to house 2,100 men and women. on most days that number is exceeded by 100 or more. while some have been convicted, most are only charged with crimes and are awaiting trial of the resolution of their cases. >> our current population changes daily. we book in 115 people a day, we release hopefully 115 or more. we have an average length of stay of about 45 days involving 30,000 bookings a year.

if it's behavioral health court, we should do a better job. if it's parole entry. we should require the public defender, myself, deputy public defender, sorry. to go and stand in front of this group of officers every quarter. it's the hardest thing i do because they don't want to hear from the public defender. and the fact that they invite me every time is a great statement about where we are and about where we can go. so that's kind of what i wanted to just put on your had arrest screen. you can help push us to look at the bigger picture of san francisco where mental health and criminal justice intersect. so i'm happy to answer any questions. >> thank you, we are going to open up for public comment. we are going to start with council member cochair supanich? >> hi. thank you very much for coming today. while i applaud all the work that you have done and collaboration. i understand it's been difficult to establish and maintain. but there is so much more that we can do. so i was just wondering now, these federal bills that are going through, have you also looked at

impact is the behavior affect, andntent is behind the behavior. people assume your intentions. at would look like this -- you are inconsiderate. i do not know that is what you were. i do not know what your intention wawas, i only know your pact. do not assume intentions. you want to separate the strands of spaghetti -- oftentimes we give people hold bowls of spaghetti, pile on. what we want to do is give specific and pull out the one strand we are talking about. ve a problem, i will talk about that one strand of spaghetti. rebecca: thank you. we spiral and start adding on everything that person has ever done. just focus. mary: focus on that, and you want to be polite. the purpose of feedback ould be to highlight or shed light on some behavior that someoeone is doing -- actions that are e not having the right impact. so, you want to do in a way where they can hear it, but not slam them for it. you do not want to d do name-calalling. even not want to use words like "you never," "you a always," -- keep your language neutral. rebecca: you also have to decidee whether you really wan

>> that's very important behavior. and the prosecutor will need to be aware of what that behavior indicates. there was a detachment between him and those victims. during that hour he probably knew their names. some of them embraced him. they were friendly to him. they welcomed him into the group. and yet at the end of that hour he began shooting them. this is someone that had no empathy. he didn't connect with these people as other humans. saw them more as objects. and something has to explain that kind of behavior. in addition to the fact that he was apparently cool calm and collective and i'm sure they were screaming and crying and he's just casually reloading his gun. in the midst of this chaos, and that goes to his personality. that has to be explained. >> on top of that mary ellen we learned tonight he did have trouble with the law, he been arrested at a mall for causing trouble, been banned from the mall returned to the mall even though he wasn't permitted to do so legally and for some reason his father gave him

the role of the cadets to be more of the first responder in a lot of these issues of disruptive behavior that are not really criminal issues to answer your question yeah you are definitely getting more. >> so if you can get the best of worth worlds the power of having law officer there. what i heard from you more appropriate staffing levels by them. is there a chance you can manage this cost down? >> yeah i'm engaged right now in an ongoing effort to reduce cost. that has been part of my staffing assessment not just in general but dph wide to look for opportunities to reduce the cost >> thanks my second question brought up there are huge advantages to having law officer but there are certain disadvantages we found out which relates to nurse safety which is a concern to all of us the sheriff assured us nine months ago when he was here i forgot the date they had made grate progress in finnessing that in a way for the sher sif and deputies officers to intervun without queering their role as law officer peace officers how is that going? >> i would definitely say there has been improvement wi

the behavior is so erratic and has been and they have demonstrated verbal and actual behavior is so out of the norm and their belief system is something that very few people can understand. to sit down and talk with them talking about the religious and cultural belief but i do see that. when a country is cornered sometimes they do erratic things. so to the regime change of a couple of countries in the region have changed three times since 2011 so we have to pay close attention. so we have to be very conscious who we are dealing with and actions matter. actions matter. >> you use the word clarity and you have been very clear. we are clear we know there is a strategy in this administration why is it more people like you are not willing to call is on the terrorism if we don't mean it if more people are not saying what that strategy is. >> i don't know. i know what i dealt with. starting with my grandchildren i believe that. to join the army and i did okay but i spent my entire life doing this. so i see things that we have to be clear. because some of that don't worry about it. but what i d

with case management as well as being able to develop security plans, to address the acting out behavior. one of the things i'm proud of is the child care security at this point at the hospital the maternal child is now a secure unit which is in compliance with with the health center for missing children. that being a secured unit there is 24 security on the unit for cart reader badge access we have enhanced and ub grade it there. there is a kiosk to screen visiting as well as issues passed with photo id you have an example on the slide there in addition to that there is also a kiosk for emergency department for control after hours for visitors control we recognize an opportunity to identify visiting physicians and medical students as well as employees that didn't have id badges we have a process with the temporary id badge process. under contract services the mou between dph and sheriff's department is signed on april 29th i trust you all received a copy of that as well. just in my efforts to continue the relationship with the sheriff's department it's been collaborative efforts in rega

behaviors and there is a temptation to control behaviors rather than underlying trauma, and we need to bring in the mental health services to treatment trauma rather than simply medicating behavior. >> we were talking while melissa chan's report was airing. what is the worst example you've seen? >> i've seen a child in the state of michigan who was in foster care for years and years and finally was going to be placed in a home with a preadaptive father. when the father came to the home he was presented with a hefty bag, clothing, shoes blue jeans, all of these kids' earthly possessions are in that bag. when the dad poured it out came five six containers of prescription drugs. this dad did not know what to make of it. he took the child to the hospital to see what is this about. and what came about was the child was immediately taken off four of the six medications and weaned off the others and taken to therapy because these medications were stacking up one on top of the other unknowsly and this child was feeling listless not himself. >> and acting terribly in school. >> sleeping duri

but overall, we've gotten quite a bit of good behavior. we haven't had any self-abusive behavior. what i'm hoping is that when he does go to spike, the coping skills that we've worked with mental health, he's going to ease up and maybe we can... we'll level it off just like we had a couple of occasions over in a. >> fickett, how was (bleep) a-wing? >> mr. fickett's case, it is a dilemma, but he assaulted someone very seriously within a correctional setting. you have to have a consequence for that somehow, even if it... even if it doesn't benefit the inmate so much, you have a staff here. so it is a sensitive issue that has to do not only with the treatment of the inmates, but with the management of an institution and the people who work within it. >> narrator: todd faces at least three more months of solitary. after filming finished, adam brulotte was moved back to general population. he was released from prison in march 2014. after three months in the step-down unit, gordon perry was caught with contraband and sent back to solitary. within hours, he cut open a vein. peter gibbs i

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i like his point of could go any of behavior therapy. what's your discipline? are you use the cell phone? is it on brightly next to you? is it going off during the night waking you up? are you having a glass of wine before you go to sleep? that can cause you to wake up in the middle of the night? >> because the alcohol turns to some sugar at the middle of the night. >> when it wears off, you wake up. we love coffee, coffee too close to bedtime is going to keep you awake. what foods are you eating? when are you exercising and what's your pattern? one last thing that i pointed out when preparing for this if you have one sleepless night, okay, don't turn immediately to a pill. try to figure out what caused it and break the cycle. >> there's no short term -- no real therapy because out of all the medications between ambien, restoril and trazadone. restoril happens to be safer than the other two that they found in this and cognitive behavioral therapy is the best way to knock out a lot of best habits that you have and it is the safest and easier way. chamomile calls

they deemed him to be behavior. means basically he knows what he's doing and he's trying to manipulate us. >> step back with your feet. don't move! behind your back, behind your back. >> why are you guys so nervous? bunch of [ bleep ]. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] straight [ bleep ]. all right, see you, bitch. [ bleep ] with the wrong president, idiots. secret service, take him out afterwards. what's up? what's going on with you? >> nothing. it's your guys' crooked-assed system, so -- >> okay. i'm just concerned about the way you're behaving since you've been here. >> what was i doing wrong? >> there was an issue, from my understanding, you snatched the phone cord from the wall -- >> no, i'm not going to talk like that -- >> we're not going to talk like that. >> i'm going to talk -- >> no. >> you're not going to talk. >> let me tell you what's going to happen. >> from this point forward, your actions is going to dictate our reaction. because you've been -- >> what are you going to do? i'm in a chair. you're not going to take

discipline is put aside in order to understand bad behavior. group was founded by glen singleton educator based in san francisco. here is the philosophy, quote: it is critical for educators to address racial issues in order to uncover personal and institutional biases that prevent all students and especially students of color from reaching their fullest potential. unquote. in other words minority kids are not to be treated like white kids. school districts in san francisco, philadelphia, seattle, boston, denver, just to name a few pay that group a lot of money. and for that money they get advice like this. quote: examine the presence and the role of whiteness. unquote. what's really happening here is that minority students at risk in poor neighborhoods are being told they don't have to obey the same rules as white kids. they have a special status because of their circumstance. this, of course, creates a sense of entitlement among the children. that they are somehow exempt from uniform rules of conduct. thus an underclass is being created in the

i can't hear you. >> talk about proper behavior, critiquing popular behavior, it sounds like it makesoom for rape culture and sexual assault but it seems like it is never present before college. then it is too late. do you think it is going to be included? prof. chatelain: currently they don't talk about sexual assault or rape? >> not the same way as college. prof. chatelain: this is an interesting point you raise. in those back to the conversation about universities and how universities struggle with certain things. sexual assault is one of them. the question about where does the education around sexual boundaries about abuse and exploitation, the idea they begin at the moment that a young person goes to college ignores the very real problem of sexual assault and abuse within the confines of the family and home. and a lot of ways that we see ourselves as beyond this moment, we laugh at some of these ideas being reproduced in schools because we think differently about the family, but one of the questions is how we frame sexual assault as an issue of young people in this environment an

let's look at the behavior.lace where i would like to start first of all this is the largest head of state organization. the oic members back in 1990 found something called the cairo declaration. that was essentially an abrogation or withdraw from the united nations universal declaration on human rights. did you know that? they always with true from it. all muslim countries always withdrew and said instead that the only human rights that muslim countries henceforth would observe would be those granted under sharia. ok? what does sharia call human rights? equitation, beheading crucifixion, execution of uw's -- p.o.w.'s flogging, stoning to death. that is what all muslim countries in the world have ascribed to. again, getting to that nature of the regime, what is that regime about ideologically. the first victims of that horrific ideology and legal system, which is sharia and it is imposed are the uranium people themselves. at this time, 2015, we have reporting that they are executing another irani and every two h

the driver has been permanently removed for inappropriate behavior.d out to apologize for such an uncomfortable experience. there is a bill in motion in new jersey to regulate companies in the same way that taxes and limousines are. one of the proponents of the bill. i caught up with him at a-1 limousine his company to talk about the incident a little bit. >> i think it is appalling. i am concerned with public safety. >> i asked him about the background check because they say they do a seven-year background check. that is that is the sticky area. they do a seven-year background check on the intern. >> sit behind my computer income you. the only way to do a background check is by a fingerprint and background check the the new jersey state police the fbi. police the fbi. the background check that is done via computers public records search. teesix i want to go back to the video. >> my god i love your body. bill: if she felt threatened why would she not have gotten out of the car? >> hold on a second. this isn't her fault. why was she not have gotten out

. >> an inmate's erratic behavior triggers the emergency response team and mental health staff. >> i can't believe i did it, but i guess anybody can be a killer. >> a murderer faces the death penalty while his girlfriend awaits trial in the women's wing of the jail. >> when dennis told me that he needed my help, i was like, oh, no, no, no way. >> [bleep]. before i knock all of your fronts out. >> a newly arrived female inmate. rages. >> excuse me? >> get down, get down! >> a surprise raid causes problems for another inmate. >> when the s.o.r.t. team comes in, everybody is going down. >> on the banks of the ohio river, louisville, kentucky, has been ranked as one of the ten safest large cities in america. but downtown is a two-block reminder that not all is well. every year, about 45,000 men and women are booked into the louisville metro department of jail. most have only been charged with their crimes and are here awaiting trial or the resolution of their cases. >> act hike you got some sense. >> those stays can range from months to years. and during that time, some will find themsel

and his behavior. that's the first part of this. the second part is that the community itself is not respecting law enforcement. when you look at the coming out and i don't know how they still have, this but for the advancement of colored people, and instead of coming out and saying something that advances them by saying, listen, young people, if you are of color stand up and be known for somebody who is upright and respectful. they don't could that they come out there and playing the game again to blame the police and that again just burns this into the community that they don't have to respect law enforcement. >> mr. tony, how do you see it? >> do i have to agree. there has been a change in the attitude regarding police in some minority communities across the country. it's unfortunate. we support the police. i support the police when they do right. but, when they do wrong police have got to be held accountable to a higher standard because of the position they have. with that said, most limitations th

change or key to 0 waste is behavior change and behind behavior change are people people need training, this is where we come in. on one end, we're teaching individuals to garden, another end, compost. back in the day world war i and two, individuals knew how to garden, when the nation called about the nation to garden world world war i and two individuals knew how, that is not the case any more yet many organizations are using the skills of gardening to make social change whether it's working to nutrition literacy 0 waste, all of the different strategies, require the skill of how to garden that's what we're provieting, the skill of how to gar debt and compos if individuals know how to compost in their backyard they know how to use reusable compost bin -- support from this commission for a number of years, and subsequently, this say three month training program, for two years, and i have put up on this chart here, a very powerful cobenefit of this three month training program. we're training adults to compost epektively, more than that we're training them to be advocates and educators,

it's like buying a lotto ticket and changing your behavior because you might win. it's that absurd not to do something because of the threat of terrorism in america. africa there are more terrorist wannabes than in america. we just don't have that many here. we shouldn't have to worry as much in other countries. i think people need to calm down about the actual risk of terrorism and let law enforcement and the fbi do their business. >> they take aim at our confidence. once people want to stay inside and thee random attacks make you want to cocoon more because you have no idea is it going to be at a big place like the world trade center or on main street in des moines? you just don't know. gary what do you think that means in terms of our economy? you come from orlando, the, you know terrorist -- not the -- the tourist capital of the united states. what do you think would happen there? >> look we are a resilient bunch, and unless it's some sort of a 9/11 attack which is as john said really had a major effect and unless there is a slew of attacks in areas like the ma

consumer behavior. so i want to know, from the point -- from your points of view, do you expect weakening consumer consumption will become a long-term trend? the future? how should we consider growing the u.s. economy if the u.s. consumers tend to spend less? thank you. ms. lagarde: i would like to commend you on the analysis of the situation. that's what we conclude as well. but i don't know whether we draw sort of medium to long-term consequences from that short-term analysis, as to what will be the behavior of consumers going forward. nigel, do you want to address that? mr. chalk: we've seen structural changes in household behavior in the u.s. since the crisis. you now have a demographic that's aging, you have a young population that has a high level of student debt, you have lower household formations, so people aren't building wealth as they used to do by owning houses. i think all of these things are going to feed into long-term consumption behavior and don't think we believe we're going to go bac

collisions pd has been enforcing goks over 3 thousand citations since 2014 the focus on the 5 the 5 behaviors that are involved with the fatalities there is a slight decrease in 2014 to today i'm going to ask john concoction white to talk about the education education strategy the next piece of information. >> good afternoon mr. white. >> good afternoon and thank you i want to vision zero - right there. >> supervisor yee and the board of supervisors passed a resolution asking the city agencies and departments to come together to really try and coordinate and collaborate on education that's not been done before since that time we've assigned a charter agreement between 7 agencies and departments and we and so forth to create an education strategy for the city that wasn't what we do for the next year but the education for the next 10 years it is one of the parlors for defining streets safety and, of course all the things rely on the evaluation in this case all of them requires data analysis we determine what we're going to do and an evaluation to the adjustments of the program this strategy out

those are underclass behaviors.hings are on the rise because the underclass is growing in these american ghettos. >> cheryl is that a fair assessment do you believe talking about having children out of wedlock. is it fair to make that correlation in your opinion? >> it has nothing to do in my opinion. what i believe the problem is and i'll take race out of ecase with as well because what we're seeing are police officers who are not being held accountable for the actions that they take. they are drunk with power. police departments circle the wagon and shield these officers from any liability. i promise you if police officers who are erant and are taking lives of people irresponsibly and held accountable this will stop yesterday. >> we can continue to blame the police if you want. i want to see the evidence to support the claims that the police aren't doing their jobs the police are out there committing crimes and engaged in racist practices. show me the research and the data to suggest that and we can have that disc

the family will normalize behavior, even behavior that's very violent, and they'll rationalize their child's behavior, or they'll tell you i just never saw it coming. which is what we heard here. and -- >> i wonder, though, what is the added variable here? i mean there are people who have a mistrust of government, who have a palpable anger directed toward law enforcement, and feel desperate. but, they don't go to this extreme. is there one common variable that elevates it to which family and loved ones should then say we need to call authorities? >> i think there is. and in looking at these cases, there's a phenomenon that we've identified, it's called an injustice collector. and these are individuals who go through their life collecting injustices. it's always everybody else's fault. but they stand apart in this way. when you look at them and say are you an injustice collector who's dangerous or not, what you look at is to see, in previous circumstances, conflicts, was there response disproportionate to what happened? so in other words you go back in their history when they've been

of them said they don't feel completely equipped to manage this and they are at a loss why we as behavioral providers can't provide these services to people and need their help and we call them for help and tell them how to offer that intervention which does not go well. a lot of what we are trying to do with through the cit training with the clinic is develop these relationships. i have met some incredibly empathetic and compassionate men and women in law enforcement. it's always amazing to me and i think part of what we are really hoping as an outcome from the cit is more understanding of our roles, more understanding of the challenges we both face so instead of directing this at each other, we together look at what can we recommend systematically as some of the things we can all support. one example of this is within san francisco at the moment we are experiencing an epidemic of methamphetamine abuse. it has unbelievable consequences for law enforcement and health care providers. truly tempt -- at the moment there is no true services for people who are intoxicated at the point of psychos

we're talking about mobile behavior.avior on the different screens is quite different from the home experience. understanding how mobile behavior, that will be the name of the game for the next few years. true. that is absolutely who we are in person is sometimes different than who we are in the mobile phones. thank you so much. global entertainment and media leader for pwc. much more ahead. european central bank keeps rates on hold. one point true -- $1.2 trillion qe program, hasn't been working? what mario draghi has to say about that. ♪ ♪ betty: welcome back to the bloomberg market day. i am betty liu. the top stories. another sign of the risk of deflation in europe is fading. mario draghi said in a news conference earlier today the central bank has raised the forecast from zero to .3%. he said prices should keep rising in the next couple of years. >> supported by the x acted economic recovery, the impact from the lower exchange rates and the assumption embedded in oil futures market of higher oil prices in the years

because the models do not take into account this behavioral change.l change he was talking about is, is that the models aren't doing it because humans seem to be holding on, there's lingering behavior issues as a result of the great recession. duh. how many surveys and studies have we seen on the depression? most flawed. it's a one-off statistical sample, what conclusions can you draw? there's one big conclusion we should never overlook. any of your viewers throughout, and i'm sure many of you have talked to grandparents or parents with regard to how it was growing up in the depression, and how people didn't trust banks and institutions for generations afterwards. models are flawed because they can't model human behavior. many models are flawed. when i was young, climate, excuse me, population was supposed to be off the charts in the '80s and '90s. they were flawed. climate change models, we could argue about the potential flaws there, but one thing is certain, when it comes to human behavior, you're not going to if i can up on the models and federal

it could be open to abusive behavior. they can say that if it fits into the right category of conversation and trading and talking about the right kinds of information, it could be considered antitrust or cartel like behavior, which is what i've banks pleaded guilty to last month. betty: is there a gray area? when does it become something that is regular and a part of business or something that becomes price-fixing in a cartel? keri: i take it went from gray area to cartel like behavior with libor. it showed the department of justice will make cases either types ofngs if certain order flow information or sales information is treated. they are going to look at this very carefully. it falls into a gray area and the broader picture is that the treasury, like fx, or the foreign exchange market, is a largely unregulated market. you have conduct the doj is cracking down on in largely unregulated markets. mark: there are no regulations in place to prevent this? they describe the regulation around the treasury department as patch