we have roger ferguson, greg fleming, carson block, and r rostin behnam.'ll be sitting down with my panel and joe's panel. paula worked closely with stan because she used to run bowdoin college foundation and obviously she's on the board there she said probably nobody is better at figuring out what's happening in changing market conditions than stan d drucke druckenmiller. >> 30 years, that money found at duquesne that's pretty good that's a lot of pressure with all this money i'm not trying to manage, it's just too difficult at this point. it takes an emotional toll and everything else. he was here last year delivering or the year before no, it was 2014 >> i can't believe it's been that long. >> 2014. so it's a rare and valuable moment, i think, for me and for everybody. >> i think so too. again, changing market conditions is what we have today, which is probably why the timing for this conference is so important this time around >> i mean, in essence, you know one of the thing he was focusing on in 2014 >>. >> what? >> the fed needs to get off zero inter