behrman, a pilot who got shot down in the ouster of the doughty, to support him he had been opening up an american speaking the school for libyans and the ambassador came down to do a ribbon cutting ceremony for that individual. >> use two were not on the ambassador's personal team, correct? did you even see him when he was there in benghazi? >> he was out -- the ambassador did visit us. the ambassador of libya. he him by the day before, had lunch and he will come and meet for a debate. he won't me with the security team personally but he will give a little talk, a great job, what is going on, the state department doing it and it is more of the meet and greet, thanks for assisting to us and the chance for them to get better foods and we did and our facility. >> what was the security threat at that time? >> benghazi itself was a lawless city. out side of the greater tripoli area and when i first got there, you never saw police cars are around. 15 days before 9/11 when the attack happened you started seeing police cars and even a policeman when they answer to the militias. they worked fo