are further violations that they will be there to respond. so other than that, i don't think -- i don't think there is going to be enough votes to revoke, even if spirit i would like that to happen. but i just wish that we don't -- these issues get resolved among yourselves, but if they don't, you have to rely on agencies for enforcement. we're not having a back and forth right now. >> i mean i agree. it is frustrating to see two groups of people month after month after month not being able to speak to each other about something that is clearly very important to all of the residents. to have this gate. for safety issues, for accessibility issues, it's very frustrating and instead of having this conversation in this forum, it would be much easier, it would seem to me. rather than going through this whole process with all of these people in the room to talk to each other and if there are problems to call dbi and have dbi come out and dpw come out of the we can't go out there and do anything about the gate. i am concerned about the problems with

so, late winter 2014 they will be there. so, if we are under our current plan, we need that retrieval shaft built before they arrive so it can receive them so that we can pull them out. so, backtracking from there for nine or 10 months of construction and the holiday moratorium, we really need to start that work late winter of this year. so, we need to make these decisions quickly so that if we're going to bring it out off the street, we have that retrieval shaft ready, and that requires perhaps maybe a shorter time frame because we're not working in the public right-of-way. or if we are going to leave it in the ground, we have to do the redesign work to enable that. and then if that fails, we need to -- we would be recommending that we go back to plan a. so, the first option that we are asking for your support for is the off-site kind of win/win scenario. what we believe is the next best . this is where we may differ a little bit from what you hear in public comment. what would be to bring the machines that north beach has p

is it currently -- do you -- is it in the plan that this is being studied? i mean, is there any reference to the fact that this is being studied elsewhere? >> no. [multiple voices] >> the plan in front of you was drafted, basically the draft was completed in 2008. >> right. >> at that time there was no central corridor project. so, it did not include any recognition of that planning process. i don't think there was -- it was not planned that the e-i-r would take four years and we'd be in a situation where this is an issue. >> so, you said [speaker not understood]. would you be okay with putting some recognition that that's -- that area is being studied under a separate planning process? >> that's a question for the commission to provide direction on in terms of -- if they want to address the overlap, how would you want to address it, whether it be the option or some other option. >> okay, thanks. >> commissioner sugaya. >> yes. on the historic aspect, i think we should think about as a staff, i'd like to have the staff think about expanding the current -- currently we're jus

with 9- 11, hurricane katrina, you have to take care of yourself because we're not going to be there. apply the nert perspectives to any suspected terrorism. we're going to use the term be nice. we're part of -- the president asked americans to volunteer to help improve your own community. you are doing that now. you are part of the umbrella called citizens corps. what's the objective? for you, it's to prepare for natural disasters, especially if you live here in san francisco, the earthquakes. form an exercise, neighborhood and workplace teams. is that what you're do ?g we did a little practice right now. you are going to respond to immediate needs in your area following a major disaster. what about here in san francisco, major metropolitan area. what are some possible areas in the city? golden gate bridge, right here. beautiful sunset today, i was watching it as we got here. what else? the bay bridge, candlestick, monster park, 42,000 will be in attendance on any sold out giants game, 62,000 on a 49er game. what else? b of a building. transamerica. this is a major -- so these are --

an officer told them that he was not supposed to be there. they found a weapon in his back. -- in his bag. >> he used to be a good kid. now bringing a weapon to school, it is just not right. >> abc 7 news but several startling messages on his twitter account. he tweeted, as soon as i stepped in school, it is savage time. >> it will be tough getting around using metro this weekend. here is what you need to know. there will be no red line service between -- shuttle buses will be available. there will be single tracking on the blue number lines. orange line trains will not be running because of work on the yellow line bridge over the potomac river. you can find this all at wjla.com. macy's is pulling out all the stops for last-minute shoppers and wall street is paying a closer look to the november jobs report today. >> let's check in with new york. >> good morning. stock futures are flat at the moment. we do have the jobs report coming out at 8:30 this morning. a lot of trading will depend on what we see there. it may show a slowdown in november,

if you had fifteen thousand people killing each other in any other country there would be diplomats there would be mediators are they going to be aware. of what benefit i was born and raised and i'm a guy and. i did kill my death a destination show. in the southern portion of the richest city in the richest state in america is a cluster of neighborhoods the streets in boulevards laid out in a grid between the concrete ribbons of freeway. two miles to the west is a pacific coast highway and the beach is that among. five most of the north pole they all drive in beverly hills. seven miles to the east to corner of hollywood and by twenty five miles south there's orange county and disneyland. surrounded by the california dream this region has gone legs. on its streets there up to the country's most violent outbreak of civil unrest not once but twice it's also the home of america's two most infamous african-american gangs crips and bloods is bloody forty year feud is taken by times as many lives as the long running sectarian conflict in northern ireland it was devastating body count continues t

you said you would always be there for me. there's the answer and the question. how are we always going to be there for bobby. how are we going to help young people at risk, people who are active, to build new identities? we begin with tattoo removal, legal expunged and and we work on attachment. every individual who wants to avoid being in a gang, who wants to leave the game, they need a role model and mentor, they need someone to be there. there is no single type of person. we need it the merging of former gang members, prosecutors and social workers and public defenders. you have all had that kid. he needs role models, job training, and real jobs. i was happy to hear that in the video, nothing stops the bullet like a job. we need to provide that. bobbie ann smiley did not ask for their fates. a young woman i worked with, who has five children and has been a member of valencia 13, and finally once to leave the gang, she did not ask for her fate. we need to listen to the needs -- providing them with jobs, with law enforcement and the community, we need to merge.

it used to be thursday through monday. i started to work there since i was 16. i am asking the sheriff's offices or the state office or my third cousin barack obama to look it up. so that needs to be shutdown real soon. they run all kinds of drugs out of there. the chief of police backed by asian mafia, ed lee they don't mind at all. [speaker not understood] i hear that the sheriff is going to do something about it and jerry brown has our back and so did obama. so the whole office should be further investigated and we want to support our local businesses. i would suggest that anyone who loves local businesses -- i hear on good authority there will be six new supreme court justices because they are just not doing their job. thank you. >> any other public comment that is not on today's agenda? seeing none, public comment is closed. next item. >> commissioners, you are now on item 5, discussion and briefing -- mr. president, would you like to take items 5 and 6 together? >> sure. >> item 5 discussion and briefing on supervisors file no. 12096 3 business and tax regu

if new materials are going to be used, if there will be new plans. if you will have a maintenance -- special maintenance plan for these materials. because i have never seen such extravagance of playground structures. they looked special so wanted to get more information. >> thank you, commissioner. tim vu, commissioner of philanthropy at the zoo. a design and build firm has been commissioned so they see the process through from conception to construction. they have been careful looking at materials now. they are creating the structures off-site so they can modularly put in the playground. steel infrastructures with a variety of composite materials that will be around them that have been tested for understanding, the toe pog fi of the zoo, the salt weather, corrosion issues. they have looked at all of these issues. they also looked at the maintenance issues, so we are looking at even the ground levels around them. asphalt, concrete, what will last over time, what is easier to maintain, what prevents things from cracking. that's been taken into conside

be a shift there? and i think the third coming will be immigration. bout the latino vote there. the big move will be for there to be a big immigration reform next year. and do republicans moderate themselves on that or are we still stuck where it's everything is amnesty and it's off the table? >> but is it at the point, crystal, where you look at the fact that we're not hearing anything. even when we see manchin and others that have moved on gun legislation or gun control. these are democrats that had a different position. we haven't heard major republicans really come out and say much of anything. the same with immigration. the same with what is going on in the fiscal cliff. so we're not really seeing any substantive recognition of why they lost. >> they've been very quiet. and to your point in your intro, you know, throwing up a few diverse spaces as they did at the rnc is not going to be nearly enough to cut it. i would say not only do we have to wait and see how do they handle the fiscal cliff and gun control debate and immigration. but then are th

you said you would always be there for me. meaning, the there in force,

so the person that was with them training them may not be there now for days or weeks at a time. so we kind of changed that around and said we need to take our armed personnel and put them out there and spend time with these folks day in and day out, not only built trust between us and the afghans but it gave them the ability to prg on a daily basis. so the other frustration was the coalition effort. there was a lot of people with great intentions willing to help shared by many different countries. the frustration was many different countries, there's many different ways of doing things. so we would be out there telling the afghans, this is how you conduct police operations, this is how we do police training, this is how you hold your weapon and engage the enemy, and then several weeks later another force would come in and not that it was necessarily wrong, but it was different. so from the afghan perspective, incredibly frustrating to understand where they are going and what they need to be doing and what is right and what is wrong. so in closing if someone were to ask me from 20

so, beyond those general global changes there is not going to be a lot changing there. there is just one additional change and it is that the requirements for parcel level noticing where you need to notify everyone in the plan area and adjacent properties would be eliminated for those city planning processes that have large areas over five acres or greater. and this, again, is our current practice, but it would be codified. so, that's the big change for e-i-r. for neglect dick murphy decks, the position for appealing these would be unchanged except for three changes. first a negative declaration could not be appealed through the board unless it is first appealed here to this body. currently that is not the case. this change aims to have c-e-q-a issues addressed at the draft stage as is envisioned by the state c-e-q-a law. second, i described the mailing for these large city-run five acre and larger projects. that same would apply if they were covered by a negative declaration. there would be no need to do a mail notice to all those parties in the [speaker not understood

crisis has altered the landscape quite radically before two thousand and eight it was presumed there would be a deficit of gas the demand would go up and the there would be shortages since two thousand and nine it's been clear that if that deficit is going to come it's being pushed back by several years you also need to consider that. faces a rival in south stream which is gas problems plan to bring gas from russia through to the southern corridor now this is actually progressed much further it's a much more sort of viable project. from in a sense capital explains why the book has been beset by problems. lack of supply and the like uncertainty over what i want to contrail will be the main source of that gas and also it requires money many more countries and transit trans. countries so complex to political complexity is in dealing with me and deal with just one source of gas that is russian gas and one supplier which is gas from seoul in some way it's much more convenient to deal with one company. so now because there's a victory for south stream and gas from them well i don't think they'll be

they should be there working there every minute to get this solved. >> just real quickly, not that ion't think there is a sense of urgency or there should be. there should absence of urgency. if we don't get it it done the day before christmas, it's not the end have the world. we can get it done the second week of january. i don't think we should get too upset about it. >> like i said wall street is begtd that second due date is right in early january. there is no give on the other side. i am telling you that democrats are not giving a dime. that is why from the ceo suite they believe this is going to kick in. >> neil: republicans call the democrats, we'll go back to clinton era tax rates. the ball is in your court. >> they won't buy it because there will be conditions on the republicans we go back to the spending. >> neil: we raise taxes so it's on you. they say, you don't like it we'll go back to clinton era taxes. i'm just saying you take that away and republicans agree to raise rates it puts the onus to on the democrats to put up or shut up. >> i don't know if that would happen.

so once the permit is suspended, and there is no need for us to be there. there shouldn't be any work taking place. >> if it's inoperable, it's an issue. >> we need to get a complaint on that and we didn't. >> right. thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioners, the matter is submitted. >> i think two of the agencies that have reviewed had have the expertise in what is code-compliant here both in terms of egress and in terms of accessibility for what is before us, which is the gate that is going across the alley. the question of why it does not work, if there is no communications between the people obviously, the maintenance side is not going to do it. if there is a design defect, it needs to be brought forth and the city needs to then tell them this is not working. there are two issues here that people have been skirting around. one is the question of accessibility and i think from some of the comments it looks like it's also a question that is further beyond just the gate itself. that is one issue. the second issue is whether this gate is opened during the da

in addition we need the president to recognize there has to be spending cuts. there has to be that part of the equation. to date, the president hasn't been willing to put anything forward, at least that we've heard from the speaker. >> i know that one of the things the president has basically said, democratic leaders in the congress have minimumiced this argument, they have said, you know, republicans need to agree to an increase in rates on top earners, and then we will talk about everything else. do you think there is enough -- what do you think the sentiment is among house republicans? it seems some think increasing rates, while not optimal, may be necessary to not go over the cliff. where do you think this is going? >> the republicans have agreed that the wealthiest in this country would have to pay more by closing loopholes and eliminating those tax detuxes. raising rates, in our concern, is going to have a negative effect on the economy. so we are looking at all aspects of our tax code. i think if we could sit down and have negotiations, we could think thr

will be repercussions, there will be consequences. they will have to serve their time, but not get lost in the shuffle. prison can have two or facts. it can make someone want to be more productive member of society or they can become more integrated into the gang lifestyle. these individuals can go in and aligned with these groups and now they come out and they are more respected in the community in the wrong aspect and they're going to do something more severe. we need to -- was these people go to prison, do not lose touch with them. meet them when they are being sentenced. >> i love something you just did. you said "he needs to" and a new corrected yourself and said "we need to." we need to be thinking along those lines. you are basically out of prison, correct? you have grown up in richmond, an area that is labeled gang infested. when you listen to this, how do each of you react? what do think of what he is saying? could you work with him? it's tough love be answered? -- it's tough love the answer? >> we h kind of understanding of

they should be there working there every minute to get this solved. >> just real quickly, not that ion't think there is a sense of urgency or there should be. there should absence of urgency. if w don't get it it done the day before christmas, it's not the end have the world. we can get it done the second week of january. i don't think we should get too upset about it. >> like i said wall street is begtd that second due date is right in early january. there is no give on the other side. i am telling you that democrats are not giving a dime. that is why from the ceo suite they believe this is going t kick in. >> neil: republicans call the democrats, we'll go back to clinton era tax rates. the ball is in your court. >> they won't buy it because there will be conditns on the republicans we go back to the spending. >> neil: we raise taxes so it's on you. they say, you don't like it we'll go back to clinton era taxes. i'm just saying you take that away and republicans agree to raise rates it puts the onus to on the democrats to put up or shut up. >> i don't know if that would happen. in t

we know that there's not going to be any meaningful spending cuts, there's not going to be meaningful spending cuts three weeks from now, it's not going to be there three years from now. let's at least get over the psychological hurdle of the fiscal cliff. move on, and put some bandaid together and then hopefully, the next group in there, minus obama, starts to cure this four years from now, because nothing's goingo happen in the next four years good. but maybe we get through the fiscal cliff, but then another fiscal cliff comes, that's the whole point of this. >> in fact, and there was a proposal this week to try it get rid of the fiscal cliffs and no longer give congress full power to extend the debt. but i think, i'll tell you what, i'm kind of curious to see the other guys, i think we're going over the fiscal cliff because i think that congress would much rather have us go over the fiscal cliff and then vote to lower taxes and increase spending and they can't bare to raise taxes and reduce spending and that's where we'll end up in three months and have a vote to lower taxes and in

there have to be people working with it who are getting out there. i think this is what this city is going to be really powerful. in terms of other cities doing as well, chicago is doing some really interesting stuff. scary cool stuff. they're taking 3 in 1 data, pothole request and crime report and matching it up with social media. they're getting this really deep and rich picture of what is going on in the city. and you can do that with data when you think about it creatively. philadelphia as i mentioned, they are really active in open data. and new york, again with 3 in 1 is doing smart analytics. i think that's what you'll see happening as well, government starts to become smarter, make better decisions, better policies. this term algorithmic regulation, which means you can have laws and policies in the cities determined by data and not just what we think is best, but what's actually best. so, as cities keep catching on and more and more with the data, you're going to see some really interesting things coming out. >> cool. while we're talking abou

so to what degree religious institutions can adapt to the larger culture is i think gonna be, there's gonna be a lot there. >> but for a lot of these religious institutions they don't adapt to the wider culture. you know, they take pride in saying, "well, we're counter cultural because we stand for what we believe is right, whether or not the culture agrees." and i think you're right. that's where it really, you know. >> that's where the tension is. >> the clash comes when you talk about gay marriage because for a lot of religious institutions this is a faith issue, an issue of morality. they see god ordaining marriages between a man and a woman and they look at the bible and say they believe homosexuality's a sin and so to have the culture sanctioning marriage in that way is a problem for them. not everybody in the religious community obviously thinks that way. there are many people who say it's equality and justice for gay couples so there should be gay marriage, but that's what's really interesting for some, the roman catholic church, evangelicals, how do they operate in a culture

there are things that need to be done right now, and then there is the larger issue of just violenceica which plays out on the streets of our cities each and every day, and then there is the larger issue of just violence in america. which plays out on the streets of our cities each and every day that takes place in homes with domestic violence, takes place with the children, with abuse and sexual abuse and a variety of issues to be looked at and studied and then a series of recommendations over some period of time to come back to the president and the congress but as strong as we are in supporting the idea of a national commission on violence in america, that effort has -- should not interfere with the immediacy of this moment. the you aurgency of now to take action and assault weapons off the streets of america. to prohibit acquiring these high magazine strips and clips. that shoot volumes of bullets a second. we can fix the national identification background system so that people who should not have weapons and close the gun show loophole. it can be done right now. >> mayor nutter

it's not that there could be one person or two people here. >> there have to be three. sometimes four, depending on the issue. but for this, i think we could do it with three. but you would be in the situation potentially where you had three members of commission hearing the issue you wouldn't get a majority either way. thus, by finding a violation with only even one commissioner supporting the finding of the violation. which is somewhat troubling. i don't know if staff, before i hear from you mr. pillpa. >> so we could put a provision in here that says five members must be here in order to have a hearing. to ensure that, you know, that situation doesn't occur. even with four members you could still have a 3-1 vote and that would be perfectly fine. you would have a 3-0 vote with just three people sitting here and that would be perfectly fine too. if you want to ensure that a party comingbefore you has full access to the commission rather than four or three, we could certainly write in here saying no hearing will be held unless all five commissioners will be there. altho

. >> will there be a vote tomorrow? >> the meaningless vote is even more meaningless. >> this is some sort of dance. >> these are gyrations i've never seen before. >> a bunch of members called up john boehner and said we don't like this. >> house republicans have refused to govern. >> every time this guy takes a step forward he gets slammed. >> boehner takes a step forward. >> joe biden spoke today for the first time. >> the president is sab luteally committed to keeping this promise. >> he was not chosen by accident. >> he has such a long history with these issues. >> we are five percent of the world's population and we have 50% of the guns. >> you have to deal with that glaring statistic. >> only six more days until the cliff now. after house republicans revolted tonight and john boehner had to send them away on their christmas recess. there are now only six days left starting the day after christmas for him to figure out a way to avoid going over the fiscal curb. tonight the house of representatives was supposed to v

that will be there at least until 5:00. we are seeing delays through that area. out of marin county, southbound 101 just north of the toll plaza we have some early- morning roadwork there. looks like that maybe wrapped up. full freeway closure eastbound 4 at loveridge. hopefully that will be cleared by 6:00. and roadwork east 580 from north greenville to north flynn. that will be there at least until 11:00. it's on the eastbound side so the noncommute direction. you can see westbound 580 is cruising along. that's a look at traffic. back to you. >>> police say they have arrested three suspects in connection with an elaborate theft ring in san francisco. the three were arrested friday at an apartment on jones street where officers found laptop computers, cell phones, cameras and other items. more goods were found in vehicles and storage units. investigators say most of the stolen items came from car break-ins in san francisco as well as oakland. the estimated value of all the loot, a half million dollars. >>> 4:37. crab season has come to an abrupt halt off the coas