imagine grievance free scenarios so is a particular nation intervening in the caliphate zones for exam bel pell -- example. but are they by other policy moves insulting islam that would call for retribution. so against the historical back drop of incidental conflicts that you describe, is there an accelerant here that has to do with, if you will, an increasingly fundamental and intolerant woe habism that is more normal than it had been. and so what do you see in the future in terms of patterns? should syria simmer down, for example? does this largely go away? >> i can answer. >> yes, thank you. it is a very difficult question. i don't see -- i don't see the i.s. threat to europe, as i know it, kind of involves any -- any particular new idealogical trends. the ideology of i.s. and almost is quite similar and they have the similar -- within different groups, of the idealogical landscapes there are similar defends like the purist and the more muslim brotherhood political islamish people like osama bin laden and other political oriented leaders within al qaeda. and within the i.s., it seems more ex