. >> this really goes back to the hotel belleview, and the hotel belleview, which apparently no longerxists, was at that time the -- about a block from where the president's apartment was. it was the buzz word of all parties who were around, and they were in and out, and we didn't have any mail -- >> he had his headquarters there, hadn't he? >> i don't know. perhaps, but, you know, it was not a place -- we don't have e-mails and twitters and all that type of thing because you just met them and you whistle. we had a fellow at home we called whisper iin whispering e. >> why did you call him whispering? >> because he would whisper. they would spread rumors as quickly as you could spread a disease, and they were afraid what he did spread was a disease. but as they were getting ready for the fight in the -- for the control of the state committee, we had mayor lynch of summerville, which was our champion, and they had onionsburg was the champion of the mccormicks. but nako mccormick, who was eddie mccormick's father, was also on the committee. and nako was about as different of a speaker as