they've since left bellevue, but when they were there, their story was amazing. it's really the story of america, because they moved there and they're the only muslim family there, and so her patients-- she's the first and only muslim woman they meet-- they love her because they want a female doctor and then, you know, when they get to know her a bit more they say, you know, "dr. ahmed, can i ask you something? why do you cover your hair?" and they'll start this conversation which, again, this is what america is about: you get new people who come here who are accepted into this country and then they pass on their culture to this country, and this great... it's not even a melting pot, it's like all the colors mixing outside of the lines. >> hinojosa: it's kind of like democracy in actio right? >> yes. >> hinojosa: but you actually take a very controversial opinion. you know what i'm talking about. i mean, you basically say that you believe that the wearing of the veil, of the full covering, the face veil, you believe that should be banned outright. >> yes. >> hino

sort of working class in brooklyn, both kind kind of in the medical profession, but they worked at bellevue hospital doing a very particular kind of work. they're both dietary aids. and my mom went back to school. she only had a high school diploma. she went back to school to get her college degree and became a social worker by the time i got to howard. so i think i just saw that they were continuing to sort of struggle and try to better themselves. they were, you know, learners til the day, you know, to this day, actually, still trying to better themselves, still trying to gain more knowledge from any crevasse they could. and so i think in some ways part of what i got from them was this idea that you never stop trying to learn more about the world and to try to translate what you're learning into other thicks you can -- things you can do to be productive, to be a citizen, a critical citizen of the world. so i think they both in very different kind of ways modeled that by just sort of working every day as dietary aids and then as a social worker for my mom, to build a life for her and her f

we could go the bellevue the psychiatric ward and get more information. one thing about the f.b.i.as a federal judge who did this. the f.b.i. said they didn't want to stop investigating or asking him questions. why didn't they go and say to the judge we are not buying this. we have rights to investigate the guy and call eric holder or the f.b.i.? >> kimberly: they had someone from there the d.o.j. and the federal magistrate. they big footed him. that is the problem. they didn't need to do that. why wouldn't you still get information. we knew. not only are they wanting to carry out a terror plot in new york. instead of asking relevant questions like where did you get the money for the stuff, for the weapons and -- >> andrea: they question him -- they can go back and question him. i assume that the prosecutors and the f.b.i. agents were told, the f.b.i. agents want intel. it can be used in court. the prosecutor wantbes to put the guy away. the kid was admitting all of this stuff but they couldn't use it in court. they are thinking mirandize the guy to get him on the record. >> eric:

is a domesticated worker as i was a youngster and then she matriculated on to become a nurse at bellevue hospital. she gave up her nice to work to make a few extra dollars. she would come home in the morning. we were downstairs playing stick ball in the project and all the other mothers to be sitting downstairs doing their thing and my mother would come in and give a nod and she goes straight to the building. this would happen every day, five days a week. one may i approached her and said mom, you never go downstairs and sit on the bench of the women sitting down here. are you stuck up? and another that demands a boy, what did you say? said mama, are you stuck up? and mom turned to me with tears in her eyes. she said i never thought it was better than anyone. i never raise my kids to think there were better than anyone. how come you don't close it down on the bench and talked to the other mothers? i can't: the operating room with rashes on my body. the caterpillar is very, very fragile, light weight. they land on your neck and if you reach back to jail to brush it off, it'll pass. and wh

we could go did you know to bellevue and get a lot more information. the one thing about the f.b.i. judge who did this.he the f.b.i. said they didn't want to stop. why didn't they go and say to the judge, we're not going to buy this. we have our rights here to investigate this guy and call eric holder or call the f.b.i. in? >> because they have there electric the doj, plus the federal magistrate and they big footed him. that's thea problem. and they didn't need to do that. why wouldn't yout still get information when we knew -- instead ofo asking relevant l questions and asking where dide you get the money -- >> go back in and question him. i would assume that prosecutorse intel. that can't be used in court. the prosecutor wants to put the guy away. the kid was admitting all this stuff, but theyi couldn't use it int court. they're probably thinking,e mirandized the guy. >> he's going away forever or death. it doesn't matter. we had the opportunity to get more information. >> the intelligence isun what matters. >> there is no way he was going to walk. he was goingmo to -- he was gon.

he goes to bellevue, now the house you can go and visit. then they do go across the room and she spends the time at the plantation. she ends at the house still standing now. i think the road probably reflects that. >> was she safe when she the river? >> she was. i was lucky enough to go there. she could see washington burn. >> barbara in new york city is up next. independent. >> could either of your guests speak to a story i read about that she stopped at a store in baltimore owned by a black and that it was there that she first tasted ice cream and she loved it and she served in very frequently at her social gatherings after that. do either of your guests know anything about that? >> ice cream and dolley madison became synonymous later on in 20th-century america. >> i do not know the accuracy of that particular story. i think jefferson was the president bringing ice-cream back from france. ghali served in the white house. where she found it, i do not know. >> is a serious import. the story is not true probably. it is the association people

host: renee is calling from bellevue, nebraska on the independent line. caller: the comment i wanted to make was made by the previous caller. it is the exact same thing. what nicole is stating about the overlap in services has existed for decades. it is nothing new and nothing that anyone in state or federal current has worked to in any degree. even if the recommendations are made there has to be somebody who action takes those recommendations and follows through with cuts. since there is no master plan there is no one person responsible for doing that. then?appens do you go to the individual people in the department and say, "let us look it what you can trend." and are they going to take the recommendation heart and follow through? and who is accountable for seeing that all of this happens? we are so fragmented that there is no one person responsible or followinge for through on any of these recommendations. bring up a number of good points. one of them was the need for sustained leadership of within congress and the executive branch to tackle these issu

we have, for instance, ruth weller from one of the prettiest towns in america, bellevue, washington stateu know, the little stockings for kids at christmas. and everybody is crazy about them and her too. and charlotte eisgrou and her sister, get this, ann primack, they are 103. identical twins. they've been on the show now every year since they've been 100 and we think they're the oldest twins in this country. god bless them. can you believe this? here's a handsome devil, john robison. john is from traverse city, michigan. i think it's a great town. a little resort town and in michigan. 100 years old today. he loves computers. they turned him on to them a few years ago and now he can't put them down, sleeps with them, loves them. and this is frances angi from bedford hills, new york. 100 years old today, loves horses, crazy about horses. goes every horse race, if there's two horses running, she's there somewhere. check her out. beautiful. and we have capers smalls. unusual name. 100 years old today. an unusual man, loves to fish, always did. used to be a commercial fisherman. this is hele

host: renee is calling from bellevue, nebraska on the independent line. toler: the comment i wanted make was made by the previous caller. it is the exact same thing. what nicole is stating about the overlap in services has existed for decades. it is nothing new and nothing that anyone in state or federal current has worked to in any degree. are if the recommendations made there has to be somebody who action takes those recommendations and follows through with cuts. since there is no master plan there is no one person responsible for doing that. what happens then? do you go to the individual people in the department and say, "let us look it what you can trend." and are they going to take the recommendation heart and follow through? and who is accountable for seeing that all of this happens? there so fragmented that is no one person responsible or accountable for following through on any of these recommendations. ofst: you bring up a number good points. one of them was the need for sustained leadership of within congress and the executive branch to tackle t