they were breaking belloc and because of that and then to live under those laws. >> host: you were born 1984. how did you interact with your black mother and your white father? >> 24 mi like a child. [laughter] i was very lucky my parentss did agree job to shield me from the realities that was going on the was only surrounded by people so ignorance was plus i just knew he was my father i didmo not know he was white but race meant nothing to me because at the time that was the only way that i knew it to me. that is hell the world worked. in shielded from the stress of all was happening at the time. and then restarted to relay's i was on the cusp of the country's achieving democracy before i became a fully one functioning human being. and could they play like other kids? so were we allowed to? we could not be in public together my mother broke many lives - - was she illegally rented apartments in the area that was considered a white area but she would masquerade as man-made that is how she would walk around with me to dress in overalls and that is how we would get around to circumvent the