then on other occasions, he took me into belltown in seattle at 4:00 in the morning, where he stood downere saying, if you don't get off the block, we'll show you what our burners do, which turn out to be guns. and phoenix refused to get off the block, and so the crack dealers had to decide whether or not to kill him or go home. and they wentç home. >> what's the difference between phoenix and an uncostumed vigilante with pepper spray and an uncostumed vigilante's relationship with law enforcement relative to a costumed vigilante with pepper spray? >> well, that's a good question. i mean, phoenix has an inspiring, goofy, charismatic charm about him. he's very likable and charming and -- >> he was arrested in october for pepper spraying people, allegedly, however. >> yeah. there was -- >> that's not that charming. >> no. although, in that particular situation, i think phoenix was not as bad as the police painted him out to be. the police say he just leapt into some party goers and sprayed them indiscriminately with pepper spray, but actually there was a big fight going on and phoenix lea