it was like a bellybutton, okay? >> okay, okay. >> stephen: i'm at sea here. i'm completely at sea in the new world. i might be too old to learn this new stuff. >> i don't think so. >> stephen: really? >> i think this is a conversation about gender, and i think our genders are as unique as we are. my father had a very black and white idea of gender, men do this, girls do this. women do this, boys do that. for me i was forced to follow all of his rooms. i was a baby who was assigned male at birth and told i needed to act like a boy. >> stephen: if i have a baby and see certain genitals-- i don't want to get into any of the rough stuff-- i might say that's a boy. am i to go the wrong thing by doing that? should i just call a baby "it." until it's old enough. >> or "they" or "my child" or "my kid." >> stephen: would you like this to to be not a big deal eventually? >> i would. >> stephen: so you want to be like the rest of us which is boring. what is the most boring aspect of being transgender? >> what is the most boring aspect of being transgender? >> stephen: y

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