april 11 will be four years in belmarsh maximum-security prison.as one final appeal application in with the high court in the u.k. all of the papers, all of the documents were submitted five months ago and the high court is still deliberating whether to hear this appeal or not. this is further evidence this then legal veil that is hanging in front of julian's persecution, he remains in a maximum security prison, not convicted of any crime. he is held there solely at three west of the u.s. doj. the prison has 800 inmates. 20% of whom are convicted murderers. julian is in a cellblock with these people. he spends most of his days isolated in his cell. it is a dire situation for julian. i have to compel people we have to act to free him now. amy: i want to turn to a clip from "ithaka" where john shipton talks about visiting him at the belmarsh prison for the first time. >>, talk about the day -- >> i do't really remember. what i remember is he got arrested so i came here and went and saw him -went and saw julian in jail. anyway, he was in a very bad wa

back and forth uk to libya or three times and also visited known terrorists in the uk including in belmarshin hindsight it doesn't look great but as you say it's hard to judge because they have must have thousands of leads and how many of they boiled over time. yeah you know of the parents of the children who died in that attack this just and to attack mean this is just and to be hard for them to hear, be so hard for them to hear, isn't it. yeah, absolutely right. yes okay. let's move on to the times should we and are totally, totally toiletries that we on the planes yeah well we take on the planes yeah well this is terrorism related i couldn't believe when i read how long this has been going 2006. the security forces foiled a by islamic terrorists . down seven islamic terrorists. down seven flights departing from using liquid devised disguised as soft dnnks. liquid devised disguised as soft drinks . and from then on we've drinks. and from then on we've all had to face the major inconvenience that we've not been able to take anything through airport security onto a plane unless we spend mes