sessions: but when people come from central america, with or without children, they can can't belum, they immediately sent back to mexico. so then they are in the united states and what i have been hearing is it that they turn themselves into federal officers and say, take care of me. and what is happening, frequently -- ms. vaughan: yes, from what i hear from border patrol agents is that they turn themselves in to the border control and the border patrol is required, well, under the current interpretation turnat is required, they families and children over to the office of refugee resettlement and process them as unaccompanied minors or with the families, they are offered the opportunity to apply for asylum and then are released to appear at a court hearing at some time in the future. it said they are offered a generous form of due process, when they could be processed through expedited removal, just like any other recent border crosser. but it shows that they made this to allow them to have a hearing, rather than use expedited removal. sen. sessions: this is a, in effect, so -- sen