but there you go that's a very different mandate than bemba. they may say that the fed has or that it may proport to be on the fed's website wait for folks to go and check out what exactly the federal reserve is now naysayers might say dr martin said hey look at the unemployment report today unemployment came down seven point eight percent the economy is getting a little better it's getting a boost maybe this is a cyclical issue and the fed is helping out i would say that that's bogus because the household survey we saw eight hundred seventy three thousand dollars for the season a thousand jobs rise and this is driven by part time workers and it was a huge difference from the non-farm payrolls which is one hundred fourteen thousand so that's a very confusing thing but is there are a totally different aspect here that policymakers and people that watch this number every month and are planning for the economy aren't thinking about and something that you talk a lot about which is population growth exponential population growth is this a factor or

for a lower them earners -- he wants to keep them for lower tax bracket earners but wants to keep bemba- let them go for higher ones. congress is pressured to lower them for the groups he thinks should be lowered. the filibuster does not come in quite yet because these things are going to expire. can congress pass some deal to keep them from expiring? that may engender a filibuster. if i was to guess what will happen, i think they are going to do something to keep rates where they are at and wait until after the session that is coming up. there is a tight window to try to cut this complicated deal. host: the caller is referring to a "washington post" front-page article this morning. it says if he wins reelection, obama maybe to dictate the terms of the bipartisan debt reduction deal. if he loses, obama could make sure that the tax rates rise before he hands over the key to the white house on inauguration day in late january. officials declined to say whether the veto threat will stay if obama loses the election. mike in michigan, republican caller. caller: my question is -- when is obam